Did CEJ have a prime?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    His career has just come and gone without any sort of substance to ever come close to justifying his hype and ppv demands.

    2014 he has a big step up and loses a close fight to BJS.

    2016 he beats Blackwell and kind of underlines his status as better than domestic level.

    But then he never actually takes that next step. He fights old versions of Abraham, Groves and DeGale going 2-1 and that's it.

    And the thing is I don't even know if he's a waste of talent because I don't even know if he ever had talent above his station.

    Such a bizarre career.
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 22, 2023
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  2. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Some fighters are hungry for the legacy, some fighters like the money and lifestyle more than the game, more so for jnr as he never had the hunger like most fighters that have to work so hard to get in such positions and most are still very lucky to even then get the opportunities and postitions Chris had the luxury of his whole career, which would have taken a lot away from a fighters mentality that felt entitled his whole life.
    Not a great fight career, but not a bad earning career!

    A career of smoke and mirrors of name and entitlement.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    True. He's made his money but even then didn't maximise his earning potential.
     
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  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    He had a prime but really didn't do anything with it. He was often tangled up with GGG, but he was never able to land that career defining fight. Groves was a good fight tho.
     
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  5. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Beating a past it Degale.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The issue is he tried to be like his father in his early career, and then in the latter part of his career he tried to be like RJJ. He never truly found his own style and often had varied performances because of it, but i don't think he ever showed he was of the elite level. He was always a bit below that level in my view.
     
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  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He had a prime, he just isn't an elite fighter. Just because you have a prime doesn't make you an elite type worldbeater.

    Low ceiling outweighed his prime
     
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  8. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The young warrior hasn't entered his prime yet.
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Beat Abraham and Yildrim with absolute ease, proving he is better than whatever level those guys were on.
    Had a really good fight with Groves and then managed to beat a faded DeGale.
     
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  10. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    CEJ sucks. The end.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This is my conclusion.

    This one night.
     
    lufcrazy, Feb 28, 2023
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ooooo banned I see?
     
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  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did CEJ have a Prime?



    Yes, he actually had two bottles.
     
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  14. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone has a prime, deals with your physical attributes, not status or high ranking attained
     
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  15. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think he is/was a decent fighter. His style before he got with RJJ seemed like he would at some point be in a FOTY contender type of fight. He's been really poor at actually boxing and keeping discipline even though physically it looked like he lived the life. He believed in his own hype more than the people around him should have let him.

    He was pretty good at playing the villain and I would say his prime was between the Blackwell and Groves fights. I went to see him vs Degale at the O2 and that was just a horrible fight to watch, even though he won clearly he didn't actually impress at all.
     
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