Did Chuvalo/Frazier/Norton/Futch predict a winner for Ali-Foreman?

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  1. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Does anyone know whether George Chuvalo, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton or trainer Eddie Futch -- men who'd had experience (whether as boxers or trainers) against both Ali and Foreman -- predicted who'd win their fight in Zaire?
     
  2. EverLast

    EverLast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier picked Ali on the night of the event itself
     
  3. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no frazier predicted foreman i.e. "the champion" at ringside when commentating with david frost and jim brown.
     
  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Norton said Ali could do it over 15; Frazier tipped George despite Ali's "new style- holding".
     
  5. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Archie Moore specifically credited that holding behind the neck as the draining tactic which weakened Foreman to the point where he could be knocked out. (You already well know this, but it's good for newer and younger posters to understand that Moore admitted this on camera in a retrospective years after the event.) When Ken wasn't fighting Ali, he favoured Muhammad, at least in all the predictions I saw or read of Norton making. They seemed to root for each other, as Ali flagrantly displayed in Caracas. "Box him, Kenny, box!"

    Yeah, during the broadcast immediately prior to the opening bell for Kinshasa, Frazier can be heard assenting to a prediction favouring "the Champion," a telling concession because you knew he had to be rooting for the one he already knew he could beat. Would Foreman-Frazier II have followed Kinshasa if George had repelled Muhammad's challenge? Off of Joe's masterful showing in Frazier-Quarry II, that might have been my guess.
     
  6. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank you for the replies.
     
  7. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I seem to recall Futch and Chuvalo both picking Foreman as well. Then again, almost everyone was and it was similar to the first Tyson/Holyfield fight if you weren't following the sport at the time. Some people picked the underdog, but certainly not many and most were looking for a brutal finish in a 1 sided bout.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I definitely recall Norton predicting an Ali win over 15.