Did Cotto quit against Margarito?

Going up to 4th and 5th weight classes not risk?


He offered Margo a fight. Arum was keeping Cotto away from Floyd. Margos uppercuts killed Cotto, Floyds would be worse.

 

he just had nothing left- he was obviously at the point where the only thing left was to risk his brain as well as his endurance which was already gone,,,sometimes it happens- I mean you could argue just as validly that gerald mclellan quit against nigel benn couldnt you- but these are not immortals and just because they have nothing left to gain but serious KTFO damage they still gave their all,,,no he didnt quit

 

PS: If you check the judges' scorecards, with the 10-8 (possibly 10-7) round for Cotto taking a knee(s), he had already lost the fight on points anyway. He could not have won without a KO, that's a fact.

 

You could say the same thing with Izzy the first time he fought Rafa. Didn't make him quit the second and third times against Rafa though.

 

I wouldn't say he quit not in a Sam Peter sence anyway. By taking the knee he was avoiding the KO, Smart fighting IMO. Technically his corner retired him. There was nothing more Cotto could do, He turned up! The first 5 where a masterclass. Both fighters were on form.

 

It depends how you look at it...I voted yes but I dont see Cotto as a quitter.

I thought Cotto showed great heart by continuing & trying even when he was badly gassed but after the 1st KD Cotto walks away backwards & drops down himself, he does beat the count but is looking at his corner just before it gets stopped & you just KNOW he is thinking `please throw that ****ing towel you pricks, Im done here.`

I dont see him as a quitter but technically he did kind of quit. He fought a good fight but I was cheering when he lost as I like Margarito better & would support AM in the rematch aswell. Ive always thought Cotto was a tad overrated & I used to laugh when some said he could beat FMJ although I did predict a Cotto pts win over AM so you do never know in boxing.

 

He did all he could,he had nothing left,he didn't quit

 

Incorrect analysis. Your assesment was that Cotto condeded defeat. People only concede defeat when they are hopelesly behind or the outcome is, for the most part, already decided. Politicians concede elections when they find out that they are too far behind in the polls. Golfers concede a hole when their opponent is putting really close to the hole.

So, if we are to believe that Cotto "conceded defeat". That would mean that Cotto would've had to know that he had no realistic shot of winning. However, that wasn't the case. He was still possibly close on the scorecards, and could've pulled out a win had he survived the 11th and won the 12th. Peter, on the other hand, knew he could not win a decision. So, if we accept your "conceded defeat" argument, then Peter was more justified in his decision being that he knew a decision victory was not possible.

In reality, they both quit. Boxing is different than Golf or politics. One punch can change a whole fight. Therefore, giving up before the fight is over with is quitting. Now Cotto was taking a beating, so I can understand him quitting. However, he still quit. Peter was also taking a beating and knew he couldn't win a decision, so I can understand him quitting. So I say, we should be understanding of both or critical of both.

Peter was getting his ass handed to him and knew for a fact that a decision was out of the question. Don't try **** on him and then turn around and excuse Cotto's actions. Peter was actually getting hit with more flush shots and was in danger of suffering some bad injuries just like Cotto.

 

He " gave up "

 

Strong points. Just like the last time this topic was up for discussion.

 

Good post. There's a negative conotation associated witht he word quit which is why people get so upset about it. In reality, the guy quit. However, he still fought his heart out and has nothing to be ashamed of. Boxing is a brutal sport. Sometimes you have know when to give in. I'm pretty sure it was hard decision for him to make.

 

:good

 

My thoughts exactly.