Did Cotto quit against Margarito?

I kinda disagree with you on some of your replies my dude...

Cotto put up a hell of a fight against Margarito, nobody can deny that. I believe his conditioning and his busted nose was a big issue being he was breathing out of his mouth for about 7 rounds (which is hell if you've ever been in the ring). With that being said he was still throwing bombs up until the 10th round and landing flush.

There's nothing wrong with Cotto & his team bowing out in the 11th. They knew he was a beaten fighter, there was no need for Margarito to go in and hurt Cotto even worse. Just because Cotto's nose was busted doesn't mean he wasn't getting knocked in the head several times and if you're at a point where you can't continue, why would you as a fighter want to continue just to prove you got heart (which Cotto more than proved)?

Ironically Cotto got more respect from the Boxing community losing than most fighters do in the same fashion.

 

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but no one is entitled to their own facts. You can take the actual definition of the word quit and give your opinion on why or why not it would apply to Cotto, or mitigating circumstances as to why he quit. What is not a valid argument is to take the word quit and come up with your own definition of the word. Winning arguments would be so much easier if we could just make up our own definitions.

I think a better way to put it, would be there weren't enough mitigating circumstances to justify Duran quitting. There already is a definition of the word quit. There is no such thing as , your definition of the word. Your definition would be a separate word. According to standard definition, both Duran and Cotto quit. One was just more justified than the other.

 

Everything you wrote is irrelevant to the point I made. My assesment is that Cotto quit. Now if you can look at the definition of the word quit and explain how Cotto's actions did not fit into that definition, then you have a point. While your post was good, it in no way disporves that Cotto didn't quit which is what I'm arguing.

 

well put

 

Of those 4 fighters mentioned, one suffers from Parkinson's syndrome due to sustained punishment in the ring. Two others collapsed in their dressing rooms and had to be rushed to the hospital, where they remained for roughly a week. Their teams were both criticzed for not looking out for there man's best interest, and pulling them out of the fight. Thankfully, neither fighter suffered any lasting effects, though they very easily could have. At the end of the day, what's more important? Hearing the final bell of a boxing match or having your brain remain intact? You have to draw the line at some point.

Sure they have, and plenty of them have died in the process, or suffered lasting effects.

The Cotto fans have more than accepted what transpired on July 26th. It's more so the fans of a certain fighter (who will remain nameless) that seem to harp on the ending of that fight the most.

Peter suggested the fight be stopped himself. Cotto did not. Cotto took two knees, and was prepared to continue fighting. His uncle stepped on the ring apron, and Miguel acknowledged his uncle may have been doing the right thing. If he wanted to quit, he simply would have stayed down and let the referee count him out.

Clearly. Just as you don't need a to know what the official scorecards read in order to tell whether or not you're capable of winning a fight.

 

Technically yes,but I don't blame him he couldn't take any more.Epic fight.

 

All of this is simply mitigating circumstances that would justify Cotto quitting.

Ditto for this line.

The threadstarter is a Cotto fan.

Cotto nodded his head at his uncle once he came on the apron. After the fight, he said it was his decision to stop the fight.

Abosulutely, every fighter is capable of winning until that final bell rings.

 

I never said Cotto was a quitter, I simply said he quit in that fight. That's reality.

 

Yes, but in this instance there's no shame. He was getting battered in there, to carry on when he felt that drained and tired would've been futile.

 

Mitigating circumstances that justify his corner pulling the plug and Miguel having no objections.

The statement I made was a generalization, and one that I stand by.

Once his uncle stepped foot on the ring apron, the fight was automatically over. Cotto saying it was his decision to stop the fight only shows he wants no excuses.

 

so because Floyd knows how to prepare for fights and sticks to a game plan and has never let a fighter do that to him people don't respect him???

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Cotto took two voluntary knees in the same round(one of which occured when he wasn't even getting hit), and gave a nod to his uncle to throw in that towel. This guy didn't want to fight anymore.

"to stop trying, struggling, or the like; accept or acknowledge defeat."

This is a definition of quitting and accurately describes happened in that fight. But hey, you can call it whatever you like.

 

Whatever you want to believe. The guy put his knee down twice in the same round, and the fight eneded with him on his feet; not even wobly. He said it was tough for him to make that decision to put that knee down twice. This sounds like a man who didn't want to continue.