Did Darcy Beat Up Fulton In Sparring?

One more thing, how in hell does Darcy making a fool of Fulton make any of your lives worse ? Why does all the evidence showing he did upset any of you ar attacks your agenda's ??? does this fact somehow makes you favorites any lesser talents as fighters ? Unless your only object is to destroy Darcy's legend and standing I can't see where the argument is and I cannot see why anyone would want to denigrate Darcy anyway... what the hell did Les Darcy do to any of you ?

 

Someone on this page also said this spar was public.......... NO.... no it was not, it was actually behind closed doors and only a few were invited. Most present had never actually see Darcy in action.... they were the luckiest yanks of their time.

 

If you were going to have a private sparring session, why of all people would you invite pressmen as guests?

 

Can you find any of those thousands of words that originated at the time from someone not associated with Darcy? No? Case closed.

 

The entire story is stupid anyway. Half these Darcy nuthuggers are saying it was before a group of pressmen, none of whom reported on it. That defies logic. Its just ridiculous. The other half of these Darcy nuthuggers are now saying it was in private behind closed doors and nobody was allowed in (only because they realize like the rest of us that if this actually happened there would be sources and there aren't). Ok, lets think about that for a second. That doesn't sound the least bit shady? If you have the foresight to ban everybody from being in the room because someone might get knocked out and get bad publicity do you seriously think either of these guys would agree to that? And why? And frankly why would Grant Hugh Brown put two of his stars in a situation like that anyway? Because going in it would look like a total mismatch with Darcy getting knocked out. After all this is a guy who got several of his teeth knocked out by the biggest guy he ever fought (a LHW who was drastically smaller than Fulton and nowhere near the same class). That doesn't do Brown (who had invested a lot of money in Darcy) any favors. Alternately if Darcy did good and made Fulton look bad that's also bad for Brown who was working toward a Fulton title shot. So this whole story makes no sense. In reality they probably worked out the one time together, which surprise the press did cover and didn't report anything out of the mundane, and Darcy's people took that story and ran with it like his nuthuggers have been doing ever since.

 

Fighters stop sparring sessions all the time.

There once was a great fighter. The most hated man in America, a man so hated that he is basically banned from fighting in the country, that his entire race was effectively banned from fighting for many years, that the country had to entice a man who was retired for years to come out of retirement, that they were so desperate to discredit that they searched the country for white hopes just to bring him down. That people rioted when won. He once sparred Gunboat Smith in front of the reporters and they stopped the session and barely a whisper got out.

Yet, you expect les Darcy to get front page news because he dominated a sparring session with a plasterer from Rochester? In a time where we sometimes see great fights mentioned in one line tucked away in the paper, you are surprised that a sparring session wasnt spreadeagled across the papers?

 

Nonsense. The johnson-smith sparring was well covered at the time. Darcy and Fulton were two of the most high profile fighters at that point in time. And their sparring session was covered its just that nothing happened. Had something exrraordinary happened it wouldnt have tsken a year to cone out and it wouldnt need to originate with one of darcys buddies.

 

fair enough about Smith and Johnson an error on my part, i was going to double check, bu i figured no way could Mendoza be still disagreeing with everyone if it was covered at the time if it was covered. Guess i forgot.

How what about the one where Dempsey was said to be knocked down in sparring. You cannot tell me with a straight face that no leading contender has quit their sparring session and it hasnt made it way to the papers. What about the one where Dempsey was dropped in sparring (cant remember who it was by). I am guessing we assume that didnt happen, without proof either way. I will have to have a good think about some examples. Obviously Peter Jackson never knocked out Paddy Slavin in that bar fight.

 

All I see is crying, get over it, Darcy was great so quit the tears

 

Greg, I have learned so much about Les Darcy and the Australian boxing scene of the early 20th Century during the last month or so. Within the past few days, it dawned on me that it may have been better for Darcy if he avoided trying to box in the state of New York altogether. The political climate in regards to boxing was far too toxic in the state . That is 20-20 hindsight, to be sure. But the ban of Darcy in the state of New York resulted in him also being barred from boxing in other American states or locales soon afterwards.

The money offered to Darcy to go on the ill-fated vaudeville tour shortly after arriving in the U.S. in late December and to have his first scheduled bout in New York City during early March must have seemed to him too good to be true at first. But it didn't pan out in the long run even if he made some money on the tour. Murphy's Law certainly was in play for Darcy in the U.S. What can go wrong, will go wrong at the worst possible moment. Darcy may have done better to have bouts in the hinderland of the U.S. shortly after arriving in the country. Of course, it probably would have been even better if he didn't leave Australia, but we have debated that previously.

- Chuck Johnston

 

NOthing too exciting here, but it seems that this spar took place the week after february 5, 1917

http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lc...asetext=&andtext=&dateFilterType=range&page=1