Did Dempsey double-cross Fulton?

Dempsey's rematch with Jim Flynn was thought to be a fake by Chicago sporting writers, too, on a par with Gans-McGovern.

 

So,now you say Dempsey WAS an icon ! How does one become a boxing icon ? By being VERY impressive to millions of boxing fans, fighters, boxing scribes etc, who saw his exploits over the years..
Were they all duped, payed off, hypnotized, coerced or stupid that en masse, invented a great heavyweight who became the greatest ring attraction in boxing history ,until 90 years later a poster named
Seamus all by his lonesome self ,exposed the greatest hoax of all-time
Jack Dempsey, the greatest conjurer in fisticuffs history.? That ESB is
the real issue posters. You decide...

 

You could be right, but the mere fact of a fight ending in a quick knockout, tended to cause suspicion back then.

 

He could perhaps have said “Dempsey destroyed me, I was simply outclassed”, but that is a hard thing for a world class fighter to admit.

What Fulton says smacks of sour g****s?

For example the idea that the Morris fight was a fake, is absurd.

Morris tried to hit Dempsey’s head against the ring post at one point.

Apparently Jess Willard confronted Dempsey with the allegation that his gloves had been loaded, years after they both retired.

Dempsey replied “OK Jess, you won”.

I think that he might have said the same thing to fulton!

 

You are right lets talk about how that Icon was constructed and of course you wont agree cos it will be all positives, so I wont waste my time posting the endless Dempsey accolades. But to get the ball rolling, Dempsey was a game changer, he was the first modern HW champion and this is a FACT not just an opinion.

 

And they were wrong both times

 

Let’s examine that for a second.

How many heavyweight champions who came before him, could even theoretically be argued to have been better?

The candidates all drew the colour line.

Even today, I would submit that no heavyweight has ever been more successful, at overcoming size disparities.

If you want to find a better finisher, you end up looking at men like Louis, Liston, Tyson, Lewis, all much bigger men.

The usual straw man argument against people who argue the case for smaller champions is “so size means nothing then”.

In Dempsey’s case, it almost seems as if it did mean nothing!

 

The previous champions openly and honestly announced the color line. Dempsey kept lieing about wanting to meet Wills for years.

 

There are two possibilities here.
1. He might have been playing a game of smoke and mirrors.
2. He might have been sincere in his desire to fight Wills, but other factors might have thwarted him.

 

Well, by the same evidence Dempsey lied about wanting to fight anyone for years. As champion he was often being quoted as saying he was looking to fight someone soon, or was looking forward to getting busier, yet rarely did any fight materialize.
Assuming he even said those things at all.

 

Whatever possibilities you want to come up with, his case is totally different from color lines drawn by previous champions.

 

One key difference is that Dempsey said that he was willing to fight black contenders in principle.

Sullivan said no in principle.

Jeffries said no in principle.

Willard said no because he was afraid of race riots.

Dempsey said yes if appropriate terms can be met.