Did Derrick James sell out by taking AJ and Ryan Garcia into his stable?

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Since AJ and Ryan Garcia joined Derricks stable, their loser energy has permeated throughout the team. Frank Martin looked like **** and even though Spence was shot to **** after the car crash, having AJ and Ryan Garcia around certainly didn’t help.
     
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  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Did a trainer sell out by training boxers? No.
     
  3. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Every top trainer goes through this. You can't just take someone on at 25+ years old with years of boxing experience and really change them that much. I remember when robert garcia got maidana, he cleaned his jab up a little bit but maidana was still maidana once fists started to fly.
     
  4. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Spence:$$$$
    Garcia:$$$$$$$
    AJ:$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
     
  5. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's a different way to look at it but it does have some merit. Instead of one bad apple, they got two. I done heard this saying too many times. " I doing alright until this bad luck mother###### came around." lol.
     
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  6. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    he struck while the iron was hot.
     
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  7. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His job is to be a boxing trainer so in those terms he got a promotion with a good pay raise, good for him. I can’t see any trainer turn down to train those 2 money makers, silly question.
     
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  8. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's impossible to judge the dynamic inside a gym without any kind of reference. It seems harsh to blame AJ and Garcia for Spence and Martins performances. Do you think Derrick was stretched too thin for time? possible...

    If everything at the gym is planned out properly then I can see fighters like AJ and Garcia only being a net positive to the place. Not a detriment. Harsh to call them losers too...
     
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  9. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And here I thought, we heard all the possible moronic excuses for Spence’s loss.

    Gotta hand it though, being affected by the loser energy of another fighter in the gym is a pretty original one.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    AJ just scored a highlight reel knockout and Martin won. If Jermell Charlo beats Canelo then Derrick James will be up for trainer of the year and if Spence wins Crawford rematch we’ll say what you will.
     
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  11. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe the question should be has Joshua improved under Derrick James ? I can honestly see Joshua changing trainers again tbh,Joshua’s problems are with the mental side of his game .
     
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  12. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    So who in his stable his more accomplished than AJ?

    I know, beating Brian Castano and Shawn Porter are HUGE ATG P4P wins……
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why is AJ accomplished? Cause he almost died beating a 46 year old Wlad who came out of retirement and was coming off being schooled by Fury? A fight he should have to lost but Wlad stepped off the gas because of Vitali?
     
  14. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    MMMMM Ryan Garcia is arguably the most talented fighter Derrick has. Ryans peak potential is Canelo/Oscar imo.
     
  15. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny he actually looked & performed better with the slagoff Garcia beside him haha.