Did Diaz showed the blueprint how to defeat Marquez?

Marquez was landing the cleaner punches throughout the rounds, throwing a lot of punches doesn't mean he was winning the fight. Diaz only won about two or three rounds before the KO at best.

As for Pac well he did get a gift twice.

 

I don't know what he was thinking by saying JMM has the same combo. JMM is a master at picking his shots and landing them with accuracy. But to say he does it better than PBF is debatable.

 

after marquez crawled his ass 4 times??? dont think so :-hey

 

It depends at which times of their careers you're talking about. Yes, its beautiful to watch JMM throw, I cannot deny that. His punching accuracy is good and he definetely knows which shot to throw, and when. But PBF at 130 threw combos very often and did the same. At 147 he didn't throw combos, but he did pick his shots very well, and his shots were very accurate then. I think its very debatable, but both men throw very accurate.

 

Mayweather is great at it also.....they both do it a little different....I think Marquez is better at getting through a creece and in instances when the creese is not there, Marquez creates the creese by throwing the combination anyways.....

I found myself lauging at Emmanuel Steward yesterday when not yet a minute into the fight, he noted that JMM while throwing combination, had not yet landed a clean shot.......(he was wrong, Marquez had landed a few) but regardless) masters like Marquez often times throw the combination for the sole purpose to find out exactly how his opponent is going to defend it......then he tweaks his shot selection and intensity of the shot selection off of that.....There is'nt a better fighter at it today than JMM.

....and although Mayweather does it great as well, he's more reliant on his speed and quickness and getting the shot there before the fighter can react to it....

Both are great at it, but imo Marquez relies more on the technical nuance part of finding the opening and capitalizing.

I dont have a problem at all though, if you believe Mayweather does it better.:thumbsup

 

I think we all know your stance on the 4 knockdown issue.....maybe you can add something relevant to the thread instead of trying to force your opinion on someone that thinks otherwise.

For example, everytime you mention the 4 knockdown mumbo jumbo, I'm not going to find myself repeating to you that JMM won 18 of the 24 rounds that they fought.
.....most regulars know thats my opinion, and I dont feel the need to repeat myself everytime someone mentions otherwise.

You've been here for a while my friend.....get to work and contribute something worthwhile.
As Pac fans, I know they can contribute more than just being repetitive.....
You can do it if you try!:thumbsup

 

Exactly.....though he gets into a shell, he's a sly one....eyes always open and observing the other fighters tendencies and nuances....then off of that observance, he see's the tendency about to happen, and he's catlike at shooting his shot off to find the creese and land.

Thats what I mean about the differences between Mayweather and JMM, both observe great.....but Marquez is better at creating the creese through his busier workrate, while Mayweather does it through sheer speed and quickness.

 

nahh you are just hurting... ei..

18-24 rounds again???

so how many rounds pac got the first fight....? 1? how come it was a draw??

dont make me dig your stupid threads in here.

 

Its called boxing.....I've had a few run'ins in the classic section in the past on what I consider boxing......and its not DLH running circles around Felix Trinidad and avoiding boxing related exchanges.....

.....I've always said that a true great boxer salivates at the chance that he's going to find the opening off of the opponents aggression, and use subtle movements to get away, pivot, and counter with authority.

.....running and dancing around a ring while avoiding fistic opportunites to throw leather is not boxing!

 

BOXING = Hit and not get hit.

 

look at this uppercut you nuthugger you!

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Beautiful punching

 

not to put the audience to sleep

that one rhymes. :yep