Did Don King ruin pro sports, boxing in general?

No question he was a great promoter.

 

Dons wife dying mustve hit him hard. I agree Newfield was always biased. Don did rip off guys but it was part of boxing culture to have rip off contracts...was caytons 33% than 66% deal not worse to Newmills....the fighters who claimed loudly of being ripped were the types spending $500,000 on jewellery spending money like it was going out of fashion with 100 hangers on,than pawning said jewellery for $2000 when the money ran out and blaming don.a lot of them took cash advances than when charged said rip off. Don was no saint.but newfield oversimplified things

 

In the UK...he really tried to make good matches like nunn-eubanks and benn....he always tried to put Frank Bruno in the mix....if Don had had his way he wanted Bruno to fight Holmes in London!! A shame bone rusher stopped that

 

This. Jack Newfield like a lot reporters wasn’t above manipulating facts if it made a good story.

Contrary to what Jack Newfield and Detective Tonne said about Don King starting the fight and beating Garrett to death other witness at the scene described Garrett and King having an argument and Garrett attacking King first, but King overpowered him and won the fight, which unfortunately resulted in Garrett later dying. This doesn’t sound like a murder, but more like manslaughter, so i’m not surprised they reduced the charges against King.

Another Jack Newfield exaggeration is King being granted a pardon 12 years after his release being something that was out of the ordinary, since most convicts are eligible to apply for a pardon at around 7-10 years after their release date.

 

He was charged with manslaughter because he clearly wasn't trying to kill anyone. If he did, he could've just shot the guy. He wanted his money back. They fought. People fight in the street. People sometimes die from fighting in the street.

He was convicted, served his time, left numbers running and loan sharking and became the best in the world for a time in his new profession.

People change their behavior. Every time 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' or "The Lion King" came on at my house, I didn't go, "Matthew Broderick killed two people and was charged with manslaughter. He got away with double murder I tell you!!! Double Murder!!!"

Because, for one, he obviously didn't set out to kill two people, even though two people ended up dead.

And, two, everyone around me would find that incredibly annoying if I did that and I would've been a drag to be around because those movies were on at our house a lot years ago. (LOL)

I don't do that even though I actually remember when Matthew Broderick killed two people.

I don't remember when I was three years old and two clowns got into a street fight in another state over a couple bucks and one of them ended up dying. It's not really a moment that stands out for me ... like attending a bunch of fight cards and having a great time at them because Don King was a great promoter ... THAT stands out.

Is anyone from this board actually from Cleveland and old enough to remember a random news story one day in 1967 when two nobodies got into a fight on the street and one died, and the guy who didn't die was Don King? I doubt it.

It's all just fake outrage.

To me, he was just a great boxing promoter. That's all.

 

DK (not Don King) continues to “allegedly” be an international drug cartel leader thought to turnover billions. The gangland killings aside how much misery has that poison caused to the population?

There’s levels here. Don King is a shady guy with a chequered past. The other DK is pure evil.

 

Whoa, wasn't King charged with 2nd Degree Murder in that one? And you are comparing rich ***** Matthew Broderick colliding with and killing 2 people in Fermanagh, NI in an accident with King stomping someone to death because he didnt pay him? Because he is a great boxing promoter and you like him as a promoter? Wtf is wrong with you?

 

There is no crime of "stomping" someone to death. He was charged and convicted of manslaughter. Manslaughter isn't murder. In its definition, it specifically says NOT MURDER.

Just like Matthew Broderick was charged with manslaughter. You do something criminal that results in death, but you didn't intend to cause anyone to die.

Only Broderick was served with TWO COUNTS of Manslaughter (King one), and King served years in prison while Broderick served no jail time and paid a hundred dollar fine.

And what do you mean what's wrong with me? Why do you have such a hard on for a guy who was charged for a crime, did his time, got out, rehabilitated himself and became a success?

You play dumb and say you don't know what MTG Global is or who Daniel Kinahan or Tyson Fury apparently are (since Fury thanks him all the time), but Don King getting into a fight with a fellow hustler in 1967 over some long forgotten gambling debt has you insulting people on message boards 54 years after the fact?

WTF is wrong with you? How many DECADES after the fact did you even hear about it?

What do you care if people want to remember Don King for being a great promoter? Get over it. Your phoney outrage is tiring.

You'd be more believable if you were outraged by the murdering, drug smuggling, gun runner who is actually making the biggest title fights in boxing RIGHT NOW. But you've got the blinders on when it comes to him, apparently. (rolls eyes)

 

1st off he was charged with 2nd degree murder, something you denied. 2nd Broderick deserved to do time but he did NOT SEEK OUT VIOLENCE BY BRANDISHING A WEAPON LIKE KING DID. CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE OR ARE YOU SIMPLY BLINDED BY YOUR LOVE FOR KINGS FIGHT CARDS? 3rd I know nothing of MTG Global and I asked you to elaborate, which you didnt do. I dont know who they are or what they have done. I know nothing of them. Nothing. There is no feigning ignorance. As I wrote before, I dont know you. And I dont know them. If they are murderers like King they deserve nothing but the prison treatment. My phoney outrage? You are out of your presumptuous mind.

 

Just ignorance then. Got it.

The world of people pretending to be outraged by **** they never knew about that happened half a century ago that had zero affect on them or anyone they knew has gotten really old.

I thought Don King was a great boxing promoter. The most fan friendly promoter ever. I appreciated him for that. And that's how I'll remember him.

Go right ahead and shriek about whatever outrages you. There's always some moron pissed about something.

We're done.

 

And by the way, just who and how did I insult anyone?

 

Why? You compared a car accident with something beating someone else to death while brandishing a gun. Are you ****ing goddamn serious? And you still havent answered the questions i posed to you. Wtf?

 

Don King is a POS in a sport swimming with them. He did make some great cards, especially in the absence of Tyson. He was a great promoter. Many fighters despised him, he used them, froze some out, etc etc. A mixed bag but outside of his criminal past pre boxing he isn't much different than Arum or a host of other promoters. It's not a Saintly business.

 

I didn't. The LAW did. Both were breaking the law when what they were doing resulted in the deaths of people (in Broderick's case, two people). But neither intended for the person (or in Broderick's case people) to die.

How is that so difficult for you to grasp? Look up manslaughter. Just type it in. You're on a computer. That's what they were both charged with. Type in MTK Global and Gangsters, too. And Daniel Kinahan. Or are those keys missing from your computer?

Have a nice evening, or scream in the mirror, whatever the **** will get you away from me. Bye.

 

Lol. Obviously you cannot grasp the difference between someone brandishing a weapon and beating someone to death while collecting on a gambling debt with someone getting into a car accident. Cool. And obviously the law DID distinguish the difference between the 2 even if you didnt, lol. You keep ignoring the fact that King was initially charged with 2nd degree murder. Cool. And now I will type in MTK Global just to see what your fuss is about. Doesnt change the fact what King did. Whatever. And despite the fact that you have claimed on more than one occasion that you are done with this discussion, you keep coming back. I am afraid you seem to be the one that is screaming in the mirror.