Did Duran just have Leonards # that night, Or did Sugar just fight the wrong fight?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by TheSouthpaw, Jun 18, 2013.


  1. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol, love the sarcasm....
     
  2. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Duran is given latitude for his losses in the sense that people excuse from them.

    What they do is recognize the circumstances. He was an aging Lightweight who didn't train and condition himself as well as he should have done post Montreal.

    It's less about excusing Duran for his lack of size and dedication. It's more about not giving the men who beat him the credit of beating a 100% Duran.

    There is no such thing as a 100% Duran post Montreal.
     
  3. Foxy 01

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    Lying is obviously 2nd nature to a cretin like you.

    So lets get back to the beginning of this and every other thread where you try to disparage Duran for beating your hero when it mattered most. Which was the first time they fought, subsequent rematches are only there for little girls like you to crow about.



    It was YOU, and YOU alone that kept crying like a stuck pig about Leonard fighting the wrong fight.

    So once again for the benefit of the rest of the forum. Who knew best , Dundee, and Leonard who AT THE TIME unfailingly believed they could out fight, out muscle, and out punch Duran, and planned and trained accordingly? Or an internet numpty like you who thinks he knows what they should have done 35 years later?

    This should be even easier for you.

    If your fukin hero Leonard was so clever and such a brilliant box / fighter, why didn't he adapt mid fight if he THOUGHT his strategy was the WRONG one? After all he adapted in the Hearns 1 fight after being outboxed for 13 rounds. :lol::lol:

    When you have answered that question, you just might realise you're opinion on the matter amounts to about the same as dog sh!t.

    I'll also repeat this, when Leonard himself says " Duran made me fight his fight " I give that more credence than anything a fan boy like you has to say on the subject.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    More of your usual worthless self-contradictions and irrelevant, ridiculous tirades. You argue like an unhinged school girl. Why are you so emotional about certain fighters? You openly hate certain fighters and worships others, only to accuse other posters here of being HATERS and FANBOYS. Grow up. Pathetic to see someone of your age lying, name-calling, and contradicting himself to try to win an argument with an internet stranger. And all because you have these weird personal feelings about Duran and Leonard.
     
  5. Dubal Speek

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    Duran didn't outbox Leonard, he out fought him, and he out fought him by using superior boxing technique.
     
  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Leonard didn't fight the wrong fight; the smartest way to fight a shorter, slower opponent is to stay in the pocket and bang with him.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Leonard didn't fight the wrong fight; it's only a coincidence that he had much better results by running and moving more during the rematch 5 months later.
     
  8. Dubal Speek

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    Leonard wasn't getting pushed into the ropes against his will, he was grabbing Duran and walking backwards.
     
  9. Dubal Speek

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    Leonard isn't trying to control the range with a long jab and moving laterally when he aniticapes a Duran attack, that is just his way of staying in the pocket and looking to bang.
     
  10. Foxy 01

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    Stick to the subject, and bring up the drivel you first brought up on this and other threads you lying idiot. Plenty of us here could do exactly that if we so wished, but personally I prefer to see your pathetic hero worship of Leonard being shot down repeatedly, as I suspect do the the other folks who constantly expose your lies and fantasies. :nut:nut
     
  11. Dubal Speek

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    Leonard was exchanging because he wanted to bang, its not like hitting Duran in the head was the only thing that would back him off temporarily.
     
  12. Dubal Speek

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    Duran didn't want to maul Leonard on the ropes, but Leonard kept grabbing him and pulling him there.
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You're hilariously delusional. I don't have boxing heroes like you and some of the others here. I've criticized Leonard before plenty. There is much that I dislike about him outside of the ring. Again, grow up.
     
  14. Foxy 01

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    I don't give a fuk what you like or dislike about Leonard you numpty. I have issues with the non stop revisionist LIES you keep spewing out regarding their fights in Montreal and New Orleans.

    You are so stupid you don't even know you're stupid. Read the sh!t you have written, and try to digest the sheer idiocy of it. Claiming to know better than both Leonard himself, and his trainer who decided they would batter Duran, and by the time they realised he couldn't, it was too late. Duran just didn't allow Leonard to do anything differently.

    The best advice you could be given is to get out of cloud cuckoo land, and into a cuckoo clock. You'd be much safer there.
     
  15. Confucius

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    I obviously agree with you on the general topic of Duran v. Leonard, but I am not sure if relying so much on what Leonard said is prudent. Athletes frequently lie, and Leonard in particular is not exactly known for honesty or consistency. It's entirely possible, for instance, Leonard made up that story about how he was out of it for 3-4 rounds after the hybrid left hook he took in the 2nd round. This would be a convenient excuse to cover up how he was battered around so thoroughly during the same period and in my opinion somewhat "exposed." Translated into a more honest language: It seems to me he was saying, "Duran landed a lucky Hail Mary punch, and it got me off my game for a lot of the fight, and hence I lost - otherwise, I beat Duran 9 out of 10 times."