did emanuel stewart hurt wladimir more than he helped?

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  1. the new guy

    the new guy New Member Full Member

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    wladimir used to be an offensive beast.i think Emanuel tinkered around to much with his style. he also got waaaay to much into the mans head.wladimir by nature has a diplomatic mindset.so I'm thinking Emanuel did a little to much tinkering and talking.ever hear the saying,you study long you study wrong?

    I hope to see the old (ray mercer a** wooping) wlad in his rematch with fury. :good
     
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  2. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No.
     
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  3. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No don't be silly lol :lol:
     
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  4. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    He certainly changed his style. I'd say overall for the better but in matchups like vs Fury the "beast mode" Wlad would have been superior.
     
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  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Didn't hè hit him once in the corner? Maybe that hurt Wlad a little :lol:
     
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  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Manny extended Wlad's career allowing him to make $$$$.
     
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  7. the new guy

    the new guy New Member Full Member

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    no doubt wlad needed some help on defense, i'm just not sure manny was the right guy long term.that holding got a little out if hand
     
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  8. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    No, he made WALDO play to his strengths.
     
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  9. seck

    seck Active Member banned Full Member

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    Holding is the reason why Wlad lasted 10 years after his brother encouraged him to retire.

    Manny Stewart was the greatest thing to happen to Wlad's career.
     
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  10. Meditate=Truth

    Meditate=Truth New Member Full Member

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    Steward's system allowed Wlad to outclass a whole generation of HW's. The problem is that the success of this system hinges on controlling DISTANCE, a difficult task against taller/longer/stronger opponents who come prepared with a gameplan...something that Wlad never faced until Fury.
     
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  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Manny was absolutely key to him becoming an atg, just as he was with Lewis.
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Manny saved his career... Nearly a decade of dominance after almost everyone including his own brother wrote him off.
     
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  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    NO

    You have to use what you have....

    Joshua needs to adopt the Klit style.

    Styles make fight and the younger more adaptable Fury has his number.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. Glad I can clear that up for you.
     
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  15. the new guy

    the new guy New Member Full Member

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    i'm thinking not really.you look at wlad pre Emanuel and you got a complete destroyer who brang pure excitement to boxing.yes he needed some defense help, but he needed slight touching up.roach was the man(should of stayed with him)i think emanuel tinkered to much and destroyed a great fighter.can ya just imagine how good wladimir could of been?think about it. without all Emanuel's TALKING and TALKING and 1,2 hold and 1,2 hold?

    in my oppinion he ruined a great fighter that could have been even greater.
     
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