Did Evander "Evan Fields" Holyfield juice up?

I've never thought Tyson used them either.

Holyfield just probably said that since Tyson is his most high-profile win, so it's like "well who cares if I used roids? So did Tyson".

 

There is a high probability he has, especially considering the latest steroid incident involving him covered in the press.

 

no proof...speculation don't count...

 

Holyfeld is a poster boy for HGH.

 

I'd say just about every HW from the 90's did it- it was an arms race, and I don't know if any of the top guys could afford not to (in their minds). It was pretty obvious to look at how guys like Holy and Tommy looked early in their career, compared to how they bulked up.

The plus side of that is, matches between juiced up fighters should still count just the same if both parties were in on it. The only guy on that list I haven't heard serious rumblings about is Wlad, but just because I didn't hear it obviously doesn't mean he didn't.

Also, it raises another philosophical question: Does boxing really want to stay clean? The steroid era of heavyweights is generally regarded as one of, if not the, best, and most exciting era in heavyweight history. Is that purely coincedence?

 

That's the only thing you got from that post? :verysad

 

Show me a positive test, and I'll believe it.

 

he strength trained with former mr. universe lee haney. does anyone think that haney did not teach him ALL of his personal training methods.

 

Wlad's not on roids. The guy is 6 foot 7 inches tall and weighs 241lbs.
He has an aesthetically pleasing build, kind of like Adonis of Greek
mythology. The perfect male physique. And no I'm not gay but he
does have a build we would all die for. Huge muscles, huge heads,
Barry Bonds, Shannon Briggs come to mind have obviously juiced.
Holyfield is a juicer or was but he also possessed phenomenal heart,
desire and considerable boxing ability. He was a small guy who wanted
the big money offered to heavyweights and did what he felt he had to
do. I make no judgements. We all make compromises.

 

I too think that it doesn't make much sense to pick on one particular athelete about steroid use. Most sports insiders who have actually come clean say that almost everyone they knew was on some sort of performance enhancer. There is tons of money in it, and the tech stays far ahead of the testers. The guys who get busted are either a fluke or just had poor dopers who didn't know how to beat tests.

The Balco stuff wasn't even being tested for. They came up with new types of roids that wouldn't show up on a test. Also, there are ways to beat tests. When I was younger, I smoked a pretty good bit of weed and passed every drug test I was given on probation. If someone like me could afford to beat a drug test with a drug like marijuanna that stays in the system for extended periods, I'm sure a multimillion dollar athelete can cheat the system easily. If you had millions riding on a sport and you KNEW that people were on enhancements throughout the sport, wouldn't you be a fool not to be on an even footing?

 

That's the same logic I use- I'm not condoning the steroid use by any means, but the elite HW boxers from that generation that were clean are in the minority to me. I don't look at them negatively for that, I view it as an arms race. Basically, either nobody roids up or everyone does (relatively speaking).

I still love to watch Evander and Morrison fights, it just is what it is. I don't like bringing morals in to it because at the end of the day, Evander or Tommy (or any of the other big hitting HW's of the 90's) could end your career if you stepped in the ring with them. If you're Joe Clubfighter with a 24-3 record and kids to raise going up against a pissed off Morrison with a left hook that could decapitate you, what are you going to do? Or in Evander's case, if you're going 3 fights against Riddick Bowe even though he's clearly the bigger man and likely juicing himself, what are you going to do?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is when you're in those guys' shoes, the decision's alot harder to make sometimes. It's easy to say I wouldn't do it, but then again, I'm not the guy who could get brain damaged or killed in any given fight if the guy juicing is still throwing bombs after 11 rounds.

It doesn't make them any less of a fighter- I'm guessing the gladiators 2000 years ago would've taken anything they could've for an edge, too.

 

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I would prefer a Tyson physique over an Wlad physique.