Did Evander "Evan Fields" Holyfield juice up?

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  1. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've been around a lot of bodybuilders, and there are various risks, some long-term, some short-term, some physical, some mental. I can give plenty of examples later in the post for the curious, but I'll first get to my point.

    Steroids are performance-enhancing, but they can be counter-productive in boxing. Weight-training using steroids shortens the muscles which leads to a fighter that is musclebound. Special training excersizes can temper this, but whatever you do, you're gonna gain. So I imagine it's only useful when trying to move up in weight or if you're a heavyweight in need of more power. Heck, just look at Briggs. He's juiced up from the arse to the neck.

    I also believe there are various other drugs used in boxing. EPO, for one. If you're familiar with cycling, you know EPO gives you nearly limitless energy by increasing the amount of oxygen your blood can carry, and there are a lot of masking drugs if you know the right doctors. Furthermore, these masking drugs can only be found if you test while the fighter is training -- it will be completely undetectable come fight-night.

    My point is -- any sport where there's millions to be made is doped up. How could it not be?

    Short-term physical risks -- you can easily damage your own body because you're not feeling the damage you're doing to it in training. There is also the matter of cystes -- and these are very, very icky. Imagine a pimple where the gooey stuff is about six inches wide.
    Long-term physical risks -- Vascular degeneration (heart failure), sterility, impotence, liver failure, ulcers.
    Mental risks: You develope a hellacious temper that can seem completely out of character. I've seen my mild-mannered cousin swinging a tv-set over his head by the cord during a temper-tantrum. And it was his tv-set.

    Anyway, drugs are bad, mmkay?
     
  2. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roids. ^^^^

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    No roids. ^^^^
     
  3. Darthmage

    Darthmage SILENCE! I KEEL J00! Full Member

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    are you an alias of Scurlaruntings(spellling?).. You are the only other person I've seen on this site that uses the word "gear" when refering to roids.
     
  4. papaspank

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    Allright, all you short sticked losers, Holyfield has NEVER (do you know what that means), tested positive for steroids or any other drugs PERIOD. Even in that BULL**** S.I. article it says he has NEVER tested positive. Until proven otherwise, all you ***** envy Holyfield haters should shut the hell up! I know the average IQ of a lot of you barely matchs your shoe size, so you can't help it that your a little dee dee (see Carlos Mancia).:lol: :D :lol: :D :lol:

    This forum should require an asterisk next you special ed. posters, aka Holyfield haters!:nut :lol: :nut :lol: :nut
     
  5. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    You don't need a positive test to come to the fair conclusion that someone is on steroids. Sometimes it is just blaringly obvious.

    Holyfield was anonymously linked to a pharmacy in Alabama that is currently under investigation for steroid use. He denies ever using performance enhancers. Ironically, Holyfield's name does not appear in the law enforcement documents reviewed. However, a patient by the name of "Evan Fields" caught investigators' attention. "Fields" shares the same birth date as Holyfield -- Oct. 19, 1962. The listed address for "Fields" was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription, was dialed, Holyfield answered.

    Damning evidence....
     
  6. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really wanted to believe Holyfield was not, because some guys are naturally ripped and muscular with the proper training techniques. The article was damning in a few ways but I would still want a positive result before condemning Holyfield.

    I like BJ Penns response to Sherk's steroid test: For all you guys out there using steroids ... F*** you.
     
  7. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The SI article proves what appeared obvious since the early 90's. Holy was going seriously bald at age 30. He showed amazing recouperative abilities and strength in the Tyson fights. Although I'm a Tyson fan (and I like Holy), I like other posters doubt he doped at least not for any long periods -- he's been built basically the same since 18 years of age. Also when he might have watned to use them (after prison) he probably lacked the discipline to follow whatever regimen you need to and again his body never changed.
     
  8. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: I love when people who dont know what they are talking about call the people that do STUPID ! HOLY was juiced and your stupid to think otherwise !:deal
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    The Nevada State Athletic Commission said his problems after the Moorer fight were consistent with too much HGH use.

    Holyfield's health problems in the Bowe rubber match might've also been a case of HGH-itis.
     
  10. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I won't lie I'm a bit supisious but intell there is a blood or urin test that comes back postive I will have an incoent intill proven gulity view on Holyfield and Bonds, as well as anyone else who is supected of jucing.
     
  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yeah, call me old fashioned, but yeah, I need EVIDENCE before I consider someone guilty.:patsch

    There is a mentality among sports fans that tends to "convict" anyone who is simply ACCUSED of something. The only PROVEN juicers in boxing that I'm aware of are James Toney and Roy Jones, who actually FAILED tests. In baseball, it's Raphael Palmeiro and an assortment of nobodies.

    Yet fans inappropriately assume many other athletes are "gulty," when there's no concrete evidence to support such a conclusion. It's wrong, and it's unfair to the athletes.

    Of course, there are probably underlying agendas for this.......:yep
     
  12. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm convinced a lot of athletes are juiced up but it's not that big a deal to me. Take Holyfield, a tremendous cruiserweight, but the real money being made at heavyweight. Who can blame him for wanting to move up?
     
  13. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch But there is plenty of evidence ! You seem to ignore it !:deal
     
  14. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: So your not convinced pro bodybuilders JUICE ? :yep
     
  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    You got a positive test?? Oh, and IF you do you, you got evidence that shows that Holyfield WOULDN'T have won his fights if he didn't do it?