Nah defintely not. He has never been tested positive right? And if he did before . . . he could have been "destroyed" like RJJ long time ago.
:rofl He was on them ZAK ! And they are PERFORMENCE INHANCERS ! They make you faster and stronger which equals MORE POWER ! He wouldnt have been as good without them ! However he isnt the only one quilty !:deal
holy turned pro at 177.5 it took him a couple of years to get to 190.from there he went to heavy and reached a highest weight of 221.5.hasnt anyone here gained that much muscle over time??? well i have.i gratuated high school at 140lbs in 86.in 2006 i topped out at a high of 262.YEAH NO JUICE OR GEAR!!!!!!!!i stopped boxing in 01 but did help get devin vargas in top shpe for the 04 greek games.so dont ****in tell me its not possible i still run and hit the bag pump the iron and bounce between 225 and 260 routinely...,so go **** off.not everybody juices..., holy said he did like to eat and still can take it or leave it when it comes to chowing down.typical response fron a ectomorph.doesnt everbody remember that HOLY was the first guy to have a personal weight trainer lee haney..,and to balance that off he had a conditioning expert in tim hallmark..,alotta guys just devour the calories to put on weight HOLY pumped the weights like a mad man according to lee haney.and lee said that if evander would of choose body building he would of done well in that as well! ALL YOU ACCUSERS ARE JUST NON DOERS..,alll the tests this man has had and never failed one part of any test!!!!!!! KEEP TAKEN THIS SHORT CUT TO THINKING IM SURE IT WILL SERVE YOU WELL..,EVER HEAR OF McCARHTY???? Zack im with you i know HOLY has never juiced!!!!if he was less ripped people wouldnt have even brought this up..,micheal moorer anyone..,yeah thought not!!!!!
Exactly. When these haters can produce a POSITIVE test, then reasonable people might take their accusations seriously. I just love how sports fans just ASSUME that athletes are guilty based on rumors and unsubstantiate allegations - which often come from people with the same sorts of axes to grind as these people.
You may want to apply this diligent policy the next time you accuse HBO of conspiring to deny Hopkins two decision wins over Jermain Taylor. You bring it up in every thread involving Taylor without a bit of actual evidence, yet you speak of it like it is a proven fact. If I didn't know better I'd say you have an axe to grind. And if you can't provide solid evidence to back up your claims, yet you keep repeating those claims ad nauseum, then don't be put off any time a Holyfield thread appears on this board and people refer to him as a juiced up muscle head who wouldn't have won without cheating. Such tactics differ very little from yours. Or is it only acceptable to perform hatchet jobs on fighters you dislike?
I wouldn't say for sure Evander has, but chances are he did. You guys can reserve judgment based on a lack of a positive test -- keeping in mind how easy it is to beat the tests -- but it's not like Evander was accused of shoplifting. The thing about enhancers is that they show outwardly, either in terms of performance (more difficult to know) or appearance (obviously much easier). I can't believe anyone believes Bonds is natural. The growth in head size and overall bulk, along with various testimonies, is too much to take. And we know that elite boxers have done it as well, some dumb enough to get popped for it. I loved Roy Jones but also accept that he probably was juicing around 2000, when he really started to focus on his non-boxing career, yet became even more shredded for fights. And anyone whose legs remain that spry in their 30s after so much use over the years is a rarity. He clearly possessed amazing talent at a very early age that was not drug-induced, and I doubt he juiced during his days at 168, but toward the end, I definitely believe so. And it's cheating, no matter whether you suspect others of doing it. You guys would all rail on a fighter for tampering with his gloves, but for whatever reason you feel it's OK for him to unnaturally and illegally tamper with his body. Doesn't make sense.
*Evander Holyfield W 12 Riddick Bowe *Evander Holyfield TKO 11 Mike Tyson * denotes steroid-aided Holyfield can have the Larry Holmes win though, with no asterisk, because I dislike Holmes.
Reasonable people ZAK take an enormous amount of circumstancial evidence and consider the way its pointing ! And in this case the enormous amount of evidence points towards HOLY being juiced to the max !:hi:
Ha, ha. The funny thing is, I LOVE Evander. I am hoping like hell he wins against Sultan and gets the belt. I'm just being honest.