Did Evander "Evan Fields" Holyfield juice up?

Golota ...
Tyson...
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definites... Holyfield allegedly..


The name Duva is associated to the trainers of each of the list..
The Tyson link was a trainer who helped supply Mike with a male growth hormone after prison.. Tommy Brooks.. Brooks is married to a Duva family member..

Duva is the word.... So then did Tua use ever...???

He did go from small squat heavyweight to a quite enormous specemine.. look at his legs next time you see him..

Another Duva boxer who went from surviving a terrible road crash to muscular specemine.. Vinnie Paz... Makes one think...

 

Everyone that has muscles MUST have juiced. No one can looked ripped withoiut steroids.Steroids are wonder drugs that grow mucsles. Tyson Holy and anyone else with any muscle hardness is definitly on them..

 

Disagree...

In many cases you are right..

But there is a Mister Olympia each year which feature some of the most fantastic specemines , that have never touched anything short of a protein shake..

 

Its hard to beleive people dont think he did dispite the evidence ! BIZZAR !

 

HOLY didnt JUICE ! VIC didnt hurt no dogs ! OJAY never killed anyone ! The KENNEDYS money is all legit and there is no MAFIA ! :hi: PS and the government never lies !:rasta

 

Holyfield never used drugs when he moved from 190 to 210.. But in order to compete with the more established giants (Bowe, Lewis, Tyson) He then appeared a whole lot more ripped up.. i noticed that from close proxy..

I used to watch him spar regularly , he started to get a lot larger around 1995.. Before his first fight with Tyson he was very wide in the shoulders..

 

I was being sarcastic. As for Mr Olympia thats more BS. Arnie and Jackson got up themselves at the Arnold Classic 2005 and had the brazen audacity to delcare "lets kick drugs out of the sport" when its clear as day to see that these men are on a massive host of diffrent hormones. Hard work is also a key factor to Ronnie winning 8 consective Mr O`s but its an indisputable fact that his body is awash with all manner of "illegal" supplements. (note i put illegal in comma`s)

Seemingly by default now ANYONE and EVERYONE by this same token is now guilty and this is what rankles me badly. There are many guys that give there lives to there trades/sports and are some of the hardest workers in the game. May be Shane did get some supplements from Balco may be he didnt. But the bottom line is NO ONE has any concrete proof to prove without a shadow of a doubt he took EPO or any other form of hormone.

These days anyone who works hard enough to have a good physique is labelled as being on steroids unless the media warms to them and there seen as a media darling. This kind of attitude is annoying and completely poposterous. Coupled with the complete lack of knowledge displayed by most that have ZERO knowledge on diets/supplements/work out regimes let alone steroids and hormones this further excascerbates the situation as again and again these debates are raised with spurious information as the proof and every twat who`s heard of steroids wants to give his 2 pennys worth.

 

Considering Holys weight has always remained between 215lbs and 220 i fail to see your point.Holy turned pro as a heavy at around the 200lb mark. His now 44 years old. In over 20 years this man has gained (wait for the drum roll) a whopping lb a year. Just because he used Haney for conditioning doesnt mean his guilty by association.Just because his delts looked bigger from one fight to the next doesnt mean he was on gear.His physical stats certainly dont indicate this. Bearing in mind ANY form of physcial work with a high aerobic activity will make his muscles look pumped because of increased vascularity/volume and blood flow.Seeing as his weight in the last 11 or so years has NEVER been greater than 5lbs i highly doubt his on any performance enhancers.

 

Exactly. People seem to believe ANY allegation against ANY athelete, regardless of whether there is ANY proof for it or not. In Holyfield's case they have no positive tests, nothing - the allegations against him are therefore nothing more than unsubtantiated charges that, even if they were able to be proven true, would not establish that he had taken them before any fight - and therefore they have no bearing whatsoever on his career accomplishments.:-(

 

I believe Holyfield definitely juiced, personally who really cares he just had to even the playing field in the Steroid era I dont blame him. During his career he has worked with Lee Haney who was a what 7 or 8 time Mr. Olympia the man is jacked and an obvious steroid user, Holyfield always strived to be bigger yet had a hard time gaining wieght in the early and mid 90s thats when probably started taking them.

 

Dude iv gone from a 169lbs to 225lbs. I work out like a dog and have done so for the past 5 years. I box i play basketball and i lift weights. I get guys joking around all the time asking me what supplements/gear im on and iv never taken a baked bean. I dont even take protein shakes or any form of supplement other than Glucosamine when i can remember to take it because i have bad knee`s from nagging basketball injuries. This kind of **** ****`s me off because credibility is the only currency that matters. Because of peoples ignorance your hardwork is never rewarded because some idiot thinks you took a shortcut.

 

if you are going to defend holyfield, at least use facts. he did not turn pro at 200lbs heavyweight. he turned pro as a 177 lb cruiser. don't distort the facts in order to substantiate your argument.

 

Had a hard time gaining weight? WTF are you talking about? Holy boxed as an am at LHW.He turned pro as a cruiser walked around at about 200 and then went to heavy and 20 years later still weighs no more than 220lbs. Your post is completely indicative of the BS that plagues this forum in terms of attitudes to steroids. Holy trained with Haney to help him adjust to being a heavyweight thus on this premise he must have taken steroids. Yes i can see it now makes perfect sense..atsch

 

Dont harp on semantics. When i said he turned pro as a heavy my reference was to when his CAREER STARTED AS A HEAVY.

 

Actually, there is evidence. At this point it's just not the kind of evidence that would label Evander as a definitive steroid user. But, it's certainly enough to arouse suspicion and warrant further investigation.

The case against Holyfield at this point in time is certainly stronger than evidence such as "I know a guy who knows a guy who said Evander did steroids." Now, that would be the equivalent of having no evidence.

But, when I read the Sports Illustrated story, it sure got me curious and wanting to know more. If it's true, Evander has some explaining to do. Interesting that he never called the reporters back when he said he would.
Why hasn't he addressed the claims directly, point for point. If he's innocent, why would he let those accusations slide?

Instead, he issues his own statement saying he's never done steroids and he's going to launch his own investigation. Hmmm, I wonder when we'll get the results of his sleuthing!

Again, I'll reiterate, at this point based on the available evidence, I'm not going to label him a steroid user.
But, c'mon Evander, clear it all up for us. Why was suspicious evidence found with details eeriely similar to your own found in connection with HGH purchases. Why did you pick up the phone when investigators phoned the number linked to these sales?
These should be easy things to clear up since you've never purchased steroids.
Instead he releases a statement featuring a vague denial, and promises of an investigation that we know will never happen.

It's all got me scratching my head a little bit.