Did Evander Holyfield duck Frank Bruno??

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  1. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, I bet that someone was you. Lol
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Bruno was a big fella.
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Maybe you have.....maybe you have!
     
  4. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    I was just thinking had they fought I think it would probably resemble Holyfield - Foreman, the exception being when Holyfield starts to tee off Bruno gets hurt badly and as was always the case probably goes out on the ropes while still on his feet. Both Bruno and Old Foreman were big strong guys with good jabs who threw clubbing not particularly fast punches and not many combos. The sweet flurry that Holyfield really buzzed Foreman with at the end of round 3 may be enough to end Bruno. If not the 7th or 9th round barrages by Holyfield would be curtains for Frank. I realize the fight wouldn't look exactly like the Foreman fight but I do think there are definitely enough similarities between the two boxers Old George and Big Frank to see what Holyfield was able to do vs George he would also do vs the much less sturdy Bruno.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    I think it would be like Holyfield-Stewart 1

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  6. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    I can see that too.. under rated very good fight. Stewart was in some good ones.
     
  7. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Possibly. I think Holyfield would struggle with Frank a bit. Besides Old Foreman, Holyfield's first big opponent at heavy was Bowe. Ultimately Holyfield would find a way to win but he'll struggle with Bruno big time.
     
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  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Funny how people automatically pick Holyfield over Bruno. Dude, Frank was a big dude who only lost to the big hitters. What happens if Holyfield can't hurt him? I have a feeling Bruno gives him all kinds of trouble.
     
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  9. Bonecrusher

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    Yeah Bruno was usually always in every fight. Even being up on the cards in most of his losses with the exception of the two Tyson fights. The 2nd Tyson fight was the only time he looked almost non-competitive, Tyson just blew his ass away that night. But he was probably up on Witherspoon when he was stopped he was definitely miles ahead of bonecrusher when he was stopped in the last round. He was also beating Lennox up until getting absolutely drilled with that left hook, then he Bruno’d basically, you know the drill, knocked out on the ropes while still standing but clearly out
     
  10. TBooze

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    I disagree with a couple of the comments. Witherspoon/Bruno was an even fight for eight rounds, but by the time the stoppage came Tim was very much on top.

    And I went to Lewis/Bruno. Most of the people I went with were Bruno fans, but none of them felt Bruno was in control of the fight. It was another fight that was flowing one way and then the other for six rounds. But it was scheduled for 12 not 6 rounds, and the Lion got the job done with virtually half the fight still to go.
     
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  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I agree with all of this.
     
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  12. Richard M Murrieta

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    Tim Witherspoon did not duck Frank Bruno on July 19 1986, in London, England, won by the then WBA Heavyweight Champion, by a TKO 11. Iron Mike Tyson did not duck Frank, Tyson won both times, by TKO. Oliver McCall did not either, Evander Holyfield would have never ducked Bruno either. Neither did Lennox Lewis.
     
  13. Clinton

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    Couldn't agree more. Evander may have ducked Frank, but the past it version fought both Lennox and Mike twice each? Doesn't make sense to me.
     
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  14. Bonecrusher

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    Witherspoon was definitely coming on, as far as the cards it’s been quite awhile since I’ve revisited that one. Likewise with Lewis - Bruno although I feel like Bruno was in control but again it’s been awhile. I remember Bruno shaking him up with a god jab strait right combo. I can still hear Lampley screaming “Bruno has Lewis in serious trouble” Jim was always a bit excitable. It’s a blessing and a curse that damn near all those calls are still crystal in my head. Looking at the scores at the time of the Lewis stoppage one judge had only given Lewis 1 round and the fight was even on the other two cards, the AP had also only given Lewis 1 round in the fight, but I can understand why your mates would feel uneasy because Bruno always could crumble at any time, sadly, I love Big Frank. Point I was making was other than the 2nd Tyson fight no one just walked through Bruno and Holyfield had a habit of making most fights at least a semi struggle so I have no doubt this will be a good one. But Holyfield will win.
     
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  15. zadfrak

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    it was so cold that night in an outdoor arena. Lewis was not sweated up before the bout started. Bone dry. Once he got loose and warmed up by the 4th , Frank was in trouble. His opportune moments had passed by.

    And Bruno drops those hands as rounds go by. becomes more of a statue. And like other muscular fighters his punches get wider and slower as each round goes by. Big difference watching Bruno in the 5th round than the first. And another big step down by like the 9th round.

    But like others pointed out, Bruno was not smart enough when hurt to tie a guy up. Instead he'd freeze up. That's a horrible habit to have when facing an elite finisher. And 36 minutes is just asking Frank to do too much against a Lennox Lewis without having that parachute open.