did floyd have the potential to be the best p4p fighter ever

He was turned down by many elite fighters on his way up --

 

young oscar, mosley and tszyu were before his time......

 

good points but still at the same time ... he was turned down against Mosley x2 ... Cotto (who many claim was too green) ... Tszyu (who was 1/2 way into retirement) ... Oscar because he was a bigger draw and was fighting guys who were more experienced than Floyd at the time.

I agree with your post though 100%

 

Not entirely. Floyds been calling out all 3 for years. Unfortunatly, he was fighting at the lower weights at the time.

 

Oh of course, he has balls in that sense, I think you misunderstand

To be the greatest of all-time, you have to have the motivation and inclination to step in with the best 9 times out of 10. This is because guys are just not as active now, so you really have to fight the best every time. Very difficult with mandatories and stuff, and that is why we are unlikely to get any new GOAT candidates anytime soon. Mayweather just DIDN'T do it. There are too many guys we look back on a think "what would have happened there?"

Tszyu, Casamayor, Cotto, Mosley. These were serious players in his division, not just other contenders.

 

Those guys declined to fight Mayweather on his way up ... so how is that his fault?

Why no one talks about those guys declining to fight him ... Floyd calling those guys out on national TV ... Mayweather not even reaching negotiations with those guys ... because they wanted no parts.

 

He certainly had the potential. Let's say he beat Cotto, Williams, Berto en route to cleaning out the welterweight division, he would definitely be in the contention for top 10. Now depending on how much of a risk he wanted to take, he could move up to 154 and possibly 160 to take on the fighters there.

 

yeps.

mosley lost out on the first fight with floyd because oscar was a bigger money-spinner and landed it (no surprise there).

cotto is the fight that floyd really needs to be legitimate for 'greatness' because he'øs never beaten a top welter in his prime - and cotto is the only and legitimate contender if he nails margarito (which i think he will).

 

So what?

I'm not criticising him for it. We just can't rank based on "this guy turned him down" and he "could have" done this or that. The names aren't down on paper, it pales in comparison to a SRR. And he definitely could have fought Cotto, he chose not to, he's not been an angel through all this.

His skillset isn't enough to pull him past similarly skilled guys that have way superior resumes.

 

First of all speak for yourself --

Why is the blame on him for not fighting those guys when those guys never wanted to fight him?

And like I said before if he was offered to 20m to fight any of those guys named he would fight them in a heart beat and win.

I don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to Mayweather.

 

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I know exactly what I'm talking about. He didn't go life and death to make those fights. It's not just about them desperately wanting Mayweather. How about Mayweather desperately wants Cotto, when he's at the peak of his powers (right about now) where he will get MAXIMUM credit historically. His motivation is money not legacy, which is why he wasn't killing to make the fight. The fact he retired speaks volumes.

Either way, its all semantics. Whoever caused the fights to not happen, fact is they didn't, and we can't credit Mayweather for things that never happened. The bare facts of the matter are his resume ain't good enough by a long shot.

 

So then the same standard should be held for those fighters then ...

And what is going life and death when there's two sides to the story, negotiations, and fights?

 

If we are talking of just potentials . . . then YES. Definitely.