Did Floyd Mayweather Sr lose credibilty and value as a trainer?

No Hatton just shown that he doesn't know how to take direction ... and he doesn't know how to adjust in the fight ... it has nothing to do with Mayweather SR ... because in between rounds Mayweather told him what he needed to do ... "keep your hands up, faint, use your jab, and move your head"

 

I don't get how this guy looked so good against Malignaggi (a guy who couldn't hurt him) and go back to his old ways against the p4p king in Pacquiao ... it doesn't make any sense ... he looked like Mayweather Sr was making significant improvements on Hattons fight game and in 7 min he could throw it all away.

I know he didn't see the punch and he never recovered from the first punch, but damn dude thats the whole point of having a new trainer ... do you what you're told and get better.

 

Mayweather Sr put himself in a position to be criticised if Ricky didn't perform. I don't think Sr has any business with any fighter who isn't a slickster to some degree. He also didn't give any tactical insights, just the basics like "keep your hands up", he shouldn't need to have told Hatton that, he should have been kicking his arse in training everytime he dropped his hands in sparring.

No it didn't. Thats rubbish. Hatton used head movement for the first round of the fight, and then after that, he went completely back to lunging in with the left hook, with no jab or head movement. Paulie landed a few well timed 1-2s on the way in, its just he didn't have the power to achieve anything. Hatton fought Malignaggi exactly like the old Hatton would (except he was less effective in his best area, punching off the break).

 

and that's exactly what Hatton did, he fainted.

 

Bottom line is you're not a good trainer if you're fighter didn't do what you taught him to do in the ring.

Hatton may have not listened to him, he may have not understood him... It was Floyd Snr's job to make sure that he did.

 

Hatton didn't get Mayweather in as much trouble as Mayweather's mouth did.

 

Mayweather's mouth didn't make it any better, but it just goes to show ... you can take a horse to the lake but you can't make him drink.

If Hatton wouldve listened, he wouldve had a good chance to win the fight ... he was very reckless and very wild ...

When he had Pacquiao against the ropes, he was effective, but then he gave him his space.

 

Hatton himself supposedly said (if his father is to be believed) that his heart took over and he rushed in swinging. It seems that his stupidity cost him the fight in toto. There is no way that Mayweather could have done a thing to control his charge. This is what happens, I suppose, when trainers simply act as hired guns and enter into relationships with fighters which do not share a personal bond with them.

 

any idiot can tell a fighter " move your head, use your jab" etc.. the trainers job is to make sure your fighter is prepared to do that. floyd said hatton could do it and roach said he couldnt. it seems to me that one trainer knew what he was talking about and the other didnt. if hatton was unable to stick to the plan then his trainer should have known this way before the fight and kept his mouth shut.

 

Oh please man, De la Hoya didn't work with guy for many years becasue he can't train, the bottom line is no matter how good a trainer is, its ultimately up to the fighter. Roach has had 8 yrs to work with Pac and u can see that Pac listens and his improvement has shown. Mayweather was tryna fix a guy who has been fighting with **** poor fundamentals for like 48 professional fights. At the end of the day, Hatton didn't do anything they worked on in the gym. he charged straight in throwing wide punches and got tagged. i think he severely underestimated Pac and paid the price. It doesn't matter who is trainer is. As for mayweather mouth, I mean he is supposed to talk big becasue
1) it hypes up the fight and 2) its gives his fighter confidence. What is he suposed to say? "i don't really know if my fighter can pull it off". Who would want a tariner like that. Roach talked plenty of **** of too. It was all good for the sport. It made the pre fight build up exciting.

 

If Hatton had won - He would have taken credit for it.

He lost and not only lost but was destroyed.

He has to wear SOME of the blame.

 

Yes he did. Not for his lack of knowledge but from his lack of being a professional. He was mentioned as being late all the time on 24/7. He;; they even showed a scene where he had Htton waiting for him cause he was late. The MFer then pulls into a taco bell.