Did Floyd's cheap shot ruin Victor Ortiz mentally and physically?

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  1. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Trolling aside, this is a serious question. Ortiz was always a little awkward, but after the Mayweather fight, his delusion reached an all time high and his ability to take a punch was forever shattered.

    This is a guy who went through a prime Lamont Peterson and Andre Berto to getting his jaw broken by a lightweight journeyman and getting ko'd by a shot to **** Luiz Collazo.
     
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  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Protect yourself at all times!!:dancer2:
     
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  3. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the pay day went to his head.....I don't think he took to training as hard as he did before the payday honestly.
     
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  4. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    So you agree that Floyd ruined Ortiz mentally with his paycheck? He did the same to Maidana.
     
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  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Na just bad luck. Got the jaw broken vs Lopez which was worse. You could say that did it
     
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  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Something to think about...............but I think he made some money, then got lazy, he did have a lot of potential................
     
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  7. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Given the nature of the fight I wouldn't call it cheap.
     
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  8. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Wow, congrats on a well placed post. Ortiz had just had a FOTY and the new 147 WBC champion. He earned the payday but he acted like it was $20 million dollars.
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I think in a lot of ways, Ortiz never quite recovered from the Maidana loss. His fight with Berto certainly acted as redemption from that - and I think Ortiz was satisfied with that redemptive feat. For Ortiz, I think he soared as high as he ever imagined by beating Berto and landing the winning ticket in the Mayweather sweepstakes. And to that note, Floyd was already beginning to break Ortiz down mentally, as evidenced by the battering ram headbutt from Victor.
     
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  10. Robney

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    That fight was as WWE as it gets, with the blatant headbutt, the apologies and then the two suckerpunches in succession while the referee was distracted by someone in the corner.
    It only missed the classic folding chair.

    Doubt that was the trigger for Ortiz to mentally collapse in future bouts or get his chin cracked.
    It was a very cringe worthy and facepalm inducing event though.
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Agreed. Overall the whole ordeal led for an unsatisfactory ending. And the shame in all that was, it appeared (to me at least) to be turning into an interesting encounter.
     
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  12. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    it wasn't turning interesting....Floyd was embarrass Ortiz if the fight went on....Ortiz was going to go the maidana route and try to make it dirty ...problem is Ortiz is a real sweetheart at heart and doesn't have what it takes to pull it off.....he wanted to play kissy kissy with Floyd after trying to disrespect him and use his head as a weapon......it wasn't the way you wanted to see a fight end....but when Floyd is gracious enough to choose you and pay you...you should show more respect than trying to beat him by using your head as a weapon.....Floyd was just going to keep dominating victor and it was going to get worse
     
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  13. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    ref calls and signals time in, legal punch... late in the shane mosley v floyd fight did you ccall it a cheap shot when shane just starts having a convo mid round with floyd and got hit because of it ?

    get outa here with that ****...i paid my hard earnt money for a boxing PPV.. not a ****ing debate
     
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  14. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Ortiz was almost knocked out by Maidana and quit. Ortiz was almost knocked out twice by Berto. So Ortiz was mentally and physically damaged by the time Floyd sucker punched him in a fixed fight.
     
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  15. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Maidana mind FK the tree long before Floyd
    :headbang:
     
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