Did Fluid beat any ATG fighters who were in their prime?

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  1. pacman24

    pacman24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    None come to mind that I can think of. He cheery picked and ducked like he did with Pac and he was still scared shitless in the ring. lmao
     
  2. P4PMayweather

    P4PMayweather Member Full Member

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    canelo

    close thread
     
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  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    JMM. Corrales. Castillo. Hatton. Cotto.

    Boxing fans are ****s whe. it comes to losses.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did Pac beat any ATG fighter in their "prime"?
     
  5. Faceplant

    Faceplant Lucky Full Member

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    ATG means 'All Time Great', not 'A Talentless Ginger'

    Barrera.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Barrera was not in his prime. I forgot but he had some serious surgeries before that fight.
     
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  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Many great fighters never beat a "prime all time great." Very few have beaten more than one. And there are always different levels of nitpicking you can always do, beginning with "what qualifies an ATG?"

    Which multiple prime ATG's did Lennox beat? Hagler? Hearns? Chavez? Calzaghe? Holmes? Vitali/Wladimir?
     
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  8. pacman24

    pacman24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol canelo was like 22. He was far from prime.
     
  9. pacman24

    pacman24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    JMM. Barrera.
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Barrera was not prime and the Marquez fight was HIGHLY debatable. I haven't studied 2 enough but 3 Marquez should have won. And didn't Floyd beat Marquez around the same time. You did say prime atg right? Yes I know there was a weight jump but he was still in his prime right?
     
  11. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It doesn't count when you make your opponent climb 2 weight classes then proceed to cheat him on the scales.
     
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  12. pacman24

    pacman24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Barrera was prime. He was 29. He didn't have surgery right before he fought Pacquiao. Nobody knew he had titanium plates put in his head because of a genetic problem in 1997 at age 23 until they let it out before he fought Pac.
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah that's what I was talking about. Barrera was many fights in. Barrera is pretty overrated anyways tbh. Do you really rank him as an ATG? Really? Because of his fights with Morales?
     
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  14. pacman24

    pacman24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And Fluid fought Marquez when he was 36. Fluid was 32-33 IIRC. Manny Fought Marquez the first time when he was 31.
     
  15. pacman24

    pacman24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    4 time world champion in 3 weight classes. Hardly a bum.