Did Foreman really struggle with Peralta & Qawi?

• Peralta suffered a cut over his left eye in the third round.

• Foreman staggered Peralta with two left hooks in the seventh round.

• Foreman never dropped Peralta to the canvas, but referee Elmer Costa gave him an eight-count after he lay helplessly against the ropes late in the tenth round. After Foreman blasted Peralta into the ropes again, Costa stopped the fight

 

1970-02-16 : George Foreman 213 lbs beat Gregorio Peralta 197 lbs by UD in round 10 of 10

• Location: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA
• Referee: Mark Conn 9-1
• Judge: Jack Gibbons 7-3
• Judge: Tony Castellano 5-4

• Unofficial AP scorecard: 6-2-2
• Unofficial UPI scorecard: 9-1

 

This had a Fury-McDermott feel to it as well. First time George had gone 10 rounds, reacted well to the first bit of adversity he faced in his career and although McDermott performed a lot better than Peralta, it was a massive step up in quality for both guys. If you go into this fight looking at George as the destroyer he was, you'll naturally be dissapointed at his performance, but it doesn't detract from the fact he won the fight.

 

An interesting range of scores, I know the crowd booed the decision when it was announced. As I just stated in my previous post, I think I went in expecting George the destroyer, whereas what we got was a mature performance from Foreman stepping up in class against a seasoned veteran. There was still plenty of wild swinging, but he paced himself pretty well.

 

You must not have seen the Peralta fights then...because young GF came nowhere near breaking Peralta.

 

You have to factor in how many people stopped Peralta, Lyle fought him twice and couldn't manage it.

 

Peralta yes, (a bit, in the first fight) Qawi, no. With the latter he just took his time. At one point if you listen closely you can hear Foreman say in the clinch, "Don't get hurt now, ya' hear?".

 

He did in the second fight however. Literally. George broke his arm.

 

George did win both fights. There is no shame in George not being able to blast out every guy he has huge physical advantages over But I don’t think it a “ridiculous accusation” just to bring these fights up.

What is the aim of this? Is it to shut down anybody who uses these as examples of how a different style of fighter might be able to survive? Is it to make it “official” that nobody stands a chance with him if they are smaller? An attempt to erase history?

Why should there be a need to rubber stamp just the notion that George “does a Frazier” on every guy smaller than he was? There is also Guido Trane, Scrap iron Johnson, big foot Martin anyway.

Why shouldn’t somebody be able to make a case using these examples?

 

Using the qawi fight as an example of anything against foreman is simply laughable only the haters like bummydavis would mention this... Foreman literally played with him and did not take him seriously. Peralta? A guy with 80 wins with a lot of experience agaisnt a green george. And still foreman won the 2 fights... Like i said... Only the trolls will mention it

 

Huge physical advantage?
Sixteen pounds separated Foreman and Peralta.
What exactly do you find wrong with Foreman's results against Trane and Johnson?
Foreman was 40 years old when he fought Martin.

 

precisely. George was 40 years old yet presumably “any version” of George beats Frazier when a shorter mauler like Martin extended him?

you are correct. There is truth in your statement that Foreman had a weight advantage over a former lightheavyweight.

I don’t find anything “wrong” at all about the Trane and Johnson fights. They are examples of fights where George still won. George won and was extended by shorter men who came right at him. There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s how those guys fought and still lost to George. He did not “do a Frazier” on them but he still won.