Did Foreman ruin Holyfield?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Bowe landed far more punches on Holy than Foreman did, Holy won that fight by a wide margin.
     
  2. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    What is your point Mark?
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    you've proven **** .. hitting him and buckling his knees are completely different animal .. go back to 10:10 where you say he buckled his knees ..pure BS .. I don;'t hate Foreman, I just don't perform oral on him like you do .. so clueless .. going by your fantasy George mulct have been robbed and Evander was lucky to survive the fight ..

    START AT 10:10 .. pure jibber.
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    You claimed he never held onto Foreman...that was false. He literally grabbed him like 4x in a row in round 11. In round 12 the ref had to step in between them and force Hoylfield to let go.

    You claimed Holyfield was never rocked...yet he was sent flying several feet from a single punch and hopped on one foot from body shots.

    You claimed his knees never buckled, and they did.

    You claimed he was never in trouble, and yet Hoylfield IMMEDIATELY grabbed Foreman after eating a 1-2 and refused to let go.

    Literally every single claim you made was flat out false and I proved it with exact timestamps. Anyone who isn't blind can see Foreman hurt him multiple times, and Hoylfield admitted it himself that was the hardest he'd ever been hit. As I said, I'm not going to bother arguing with someone ignoring what's right there in screen. Nobody said Foreman got robbed lol, just because I'm saying Hoylfield got hurt doesn't mean I think he didn't deserve the decision. Those are two completely different things that do not require much critical thinking.

    Reality>>>your idiotic takes ignoring the footage.
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How so? Did Holy get a longer break than Bowe?

    It gave an advantage to the guy who took advantage … the one who stayed focused and didn’t allow anything to distract him.

    Maintaining discipline and concentration is part of fighting. If you get distracted because of a break, because something happened in the stands, because a bird flies by … that’s a reflection on you. Boxing is 90% mental.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How did he ruin him ? Holyfield went on to have three of his greatest performances/wins against Bowe 2, Tyson 1, Moorer 2.

    Holyfield often looked shaky in his early career at Heavyweight vs Stewart, Cooper, Dokes. Holyfield was never a dominant champion at any point in his career. So I'd like to know why you think Holyfield's performance dipped considerably after Foreman. When evidence of wins over Bowe, Tyson, says otherwise.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Foreman didn`t do nearly as much damage to Holy as Bowe did, Holy improved and got bigger for his rematch v Bowe and was on PEDS by then too, he was far stronger by that stage.
     
  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Not sure ruined him is right, but big George certainly proved he was no joke, that fight.
    Holyfield couldn't drop the big guy once and took some massive shots.
     
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  9. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I never said Foreman did more damage than Bowe.
     
  10. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Here's the film highlights ..

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    anyone want to tell me when Holyfield is buckled or where he is on the verge of going down ? this does not mean that George did not show and land some nice shots, especially his very strong jab but seriously ... it was a dramatic fight because of George and his comeback odyssey but Holyfield was never in jeopardy of losing the bout.
     
  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Foreman has never ruined anyone's career. Scratch that...

    The only career he ruined was his first career after some type of stigmata event occurred in his dressing room following his bout with Jimmy Young.
     
  12. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    There you go now Bowe has been taken out of the list of the very few heavyweights who beat great fighters in their primes and mike Tyson lost twice to an even worse version than we thought it was.
     
  13. Jon1962

    Jon1962 Member Full Member

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    It was the heart problems and the 3rd Bowe fight that really took a lot out of him.
     
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