Did Fury beat the 10 second count and did he win?

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Did Fury beat the 10 second count and did he win?

  1. Fury won AND beat the 10 second count

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  2. Fury beat the 10 second count

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  3. Fury did not beat the 10 second count

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  4. Fury lost/drew

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  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I counted it multiple times, in my own head and multiple times on my smartphone. He got up > 10 seconds and we saw Jack Reiss delay the count. Why can't you just admit to the truth? Is it that hard?!
     
  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    SNAP we posted the same thing same time lol
     
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  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Can you take a screenshot on your device of the time stamp when Fury whole body hit the floor and when Fury stood on both feet please?

    And share the screenshot.

    I want to understand why we are getting different results
     
  4. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great minds think alike:calimero1:
     
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  5. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Uh no, his whole body hit the canvas before 2:21 and 2:22 and he got up right after 10 seconds.

    Also, you can see his legs shaking and he had his put his arms around Jack Reiss after he got up to remain standing. Why do you gloss over that fact? Reiss had to dust his arms off.
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Can you please post a screenshot of Fury whole body hitting the floor with the time stamp.

    So we can all compare the screenshot to what we are seeing on our own screens.
     
  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I ain't uploading anything, I'm doing the count as of this moment and it's clearly beyond 10 seconds.

    Secondly, why do you not address the shaking of the legs and that Fury had to remain standing by grabbing onto Jack Reiss.

    It's odd.
     
  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I find it disturbing that you do not want to submit material evidence.

    I am willing to upload a screenshot myself.

    Why are you not able to upload something? Time constraint? Bandwidth problem?
     
  9. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I ain't uploading anything from my computer.

    There's material evidence there, it was clearly past 10 secs if you watch it thoroughly.

    Secondly, when are you going to address the fact that he needed to grab onto Jack Reiss to remain standing, never mind the shaky legs. In any case, that also warrants a stoppage.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It amazes me when people don't understand how ten-counts in boxing work. They are not ten actual seconds on the stopwatch or computer. We go by the count of ten OF THE REF. Since time immemorial. Even now, in the new millennium, with all the accordant technology at our disposal. You can measure out ten seconds flat, down to a millionth decimal point using digital means - doesn't mean squat, as far as boxing is concerned. The ref counts, and if you beat the ref's count, and you seem in okay condition to him to continue, then you do so. That is that.

    (on the converse side of this argument, when people get mad at "early" stoppages when a guy is floored hard and then barely makes it up at nine and change or ten and gets waved off anyway, some of these knuckle-draggers will say the losing fighter was "robbed" by the ref because he "made it"...um, no. That isn't how it works. You have to be up within the ref's count - not ten seconds by any other measure on earth, but the REF'S count - and seem, in his opinion/at his sole discretion, in okay shape to continue. If both conditions are met, the knocked down fighter may proceed to fight...)
     
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  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Excellent response, and I whole heartedly agree... but it seems MVC! is not willing to accept this knowledge... even when I pressed him for where it says in a rule book that it is supposed to be ten seconds.

    But I am dragging this out because MVC! is convinced on the > seconds theory and I want to assess his ability to count or if he is actually trolling us.

    He will not provide me with screenshots from his device even though many of us are getting different results to him viewing the time stamps.
     
  12. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    We understand how the count works, that's not the argument.

    We're arguing whether or not the count was deliberately delayed by Jack Reiss ala Marlon B Wright in the Bute/Andrade fight (Which I'm not sure you've seen).

    We are also discussing the fact that since Fury needed to grab onto Jack Reiss to remain standing, should the fight have been stopped on that alone.
     
  13. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    That was not the argument at all, read ^.
     
  14. de Morhalle

    de Morhalle Member Full Member

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    True Fury's 0 is gone too, but a 40% Fury who was an absolute state a year before inactive and with 2 low tier warm up fights defeated the WBC Champion. Pray tell how Fury was exposed and not Wilder?.
     
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  15. MVC!

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    You will of course gloss over Wilder's injury LMFAO, the multiple surgeries etc etc.

    Fury and Wilder drew, Fury got knocked down twice and had his lights shut out. He was counted out by any real count.