Did Golota Put Poland On Boxing Map By Himself?

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  1. Italian Stallion

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    Did he have help from other fighting countrymen? I say Andy did on his lonesome in the 90s. What say you?
     
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    His pay-per-view headliners really helped I think. He got be in the same ring with such legends which at the time was unheard of for Poles competing at a higher level.
     
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  3. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golota was box office.....America really wanted him to be a great white hope...after the disapointnents of morrisson and cooney and bobick the previous 20 years...the great white hope thing was never racist to me....most boxing fans wanted a return of elite irish or polish or italian heavyweights like those of the past as it would improve the game .....in the same way most cricket fans,wanted to see a return of fast west indian bowling after 20 years in the wilderness.....golota really restored pride back to white hw boxing in the 2 bowe fights....morrison was doing a v good job vs foreman and ruddock at the same time....both of them had shock inducing unpredictable disappointing yet highly successful and box office careers in v different ways.

    So i cant say anything bad about either.both took on the absolute best.

    In a way golota and his eccentric shocking rise and implosions and riots in the mid 90s was a bit like the rise of shock tv like the jerry springer show....morrisons rise and fall and AIDS diagnosis than fall out too..like i said before this was a rarely gifted talent hw in golota .he was tough...he looked the part...whatever the result he really ruined bowe in the ring twice...bowe fought back valiantly and didnt deserve to lose on reflection these were two wild fights where both bowe and golota won and lost at the same time

    Golota,appeared on Letterman shortly afterwards

    Any man who fought for titles over a decade period and was probably the winner vs ruiz,and byrd....could fight v well against differing styles

    Ultimately yes he did put polish boxing boxing on the map...he also after a decade along with morrison put white HW boxing on the map again
     
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  5. Italian Stallion

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    No, Polish fans generally not as fond of him because he boxed most of his career under a different flag.
     
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  6. Italian Stallion

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    Thanks so much for this feedback, Jamal! Yeah it's interesting, while there were Irish and Italian heavies back in the day there wasn't any Polish one until Golota arrived on the scene and with what a bang he arrived for his country! Many in Poland believe Golota was the "Last White Hope" in global boxing as far as Heavyweights go which I think speaks to what you're saying. But yeah, I think Golota & Morrison were the two best white HWs of the 90s for sure with Golota giving the better performances because a shot Bowe is better than an old Foreman IMO (on paper and in general). Was Andrew on Letterman too?! I thought it was only Conan, though I may be wrong. Really insightful commentary, I hope to see you commenting again, and thanks again!
     
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    Poland was loaded with fistic amateur talents. The first guy you mention can certainly, along with Kulej, be looked at as the ones to put PL on the map of amateur boxing. But the pros? In Poland the general opinion of fans is that Michalczewski was not a Polish fighter because he boxed under a different flag so Golota is heralded as the first Pole to make it big in the pros. Although Dariusz did box his final four bouts under the Polish flag to be fair, but at that point it was too late. Thanks for commenting.
     
  8. TBooze

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    But that is not the question. He was considered by most in the world Polish, and thus rightly or wrongly, you would assume the original leader of pro boxing post the Communist era.
     
  9. Italian Stallion

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    That's the problem, he was actually identified as a German mostly for he boxed under the German flag and under the German national anthem in the 90s and early 00s. Only the most well-informed fans knew his background. To the average or casual observer, he was German. He only fought in world title bouts under the flag of the Polish nation between 2002-05, much after Golota already put Poland on the map w/his in-ring accomplishments & title effort.
     
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  10. Italian Stallion

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    So it's actually the opposite because Dariusz fought as a junior for Poland then while the Polish national team was in Germany he defected and stayed in Deutschland. He took the German flag and this can be officially proved by BoxRec. Dariusz fought 50 times as a pro, with 46 of those contests for Germany and the final four times for Poland. Very interesting -- I didn't know some Germans don't regard him as German. Your commentary on Gdansk makes sense. Bienias (Krzysztof) is Polish yes though I'm not sure if he has other roots. Great insight as always; thank you! I invite you to comment again!