Did Golovkin TRULY prove he was the most powerful puncher that Canelo Alvarez faced?

Abraham was at 168
Strum was old
Pirog good fighter but was long gone forced to retire early due to injury
BJS good fighter now was young back then
JCC trash
Cotto fought and beat a cripple and old Martinez and destroyed Geale too small to be at MW
Lemeiux limited puncher who has beat nobody
Macklin not good
Jacobs GGG's best win
Andy Lee decent fighter but never elite
Quillen Jacobs' best win
Geale never would have won a title at 160 today
Zbik beat no one of note trash

Like I said earlier weak non elite trash division full of regional fighters that would lose to the current crop at 160.

 

to be fair jacobs is only 3Gs best win because 3Gs only been a world level champion for 4 years (or 3 and a half is you dont include Geale) in that time he was defended successfully against an elite once (the draw, first fight) as well, dont forget.

If 3G had reigned longer, he'd have more top contenders like jacobs on his resume. Of course, now we know he wasnt good enough to reign longer than 4 years so its null argument. But 4 years (or 3 and a half) and 9 (8 without Geale) defences is still respectable.

3G proved he is on par with Martinez, if still a little short of the Sturms and Abrahams and very short of the Haglers and Hopkins. But remember - 3G is not finshed yet, he may well end up ahead of them all!

Before Geale, 3G was defending only the ibo (sub-world) title for a long time, so you cannot criticise him for facing sub-worlders for so long when it was a subworld title he was defending.

 

@Pimp C One question - what did you think of Light Welterweight during this time? NOW that is what you call a weak division!!!!

 

The difference between me and you is I have no problem admitting things. Yes 140 was weak Crawford cleaned it out and moved up he didn't stay in a dead division. He moved up to 147 which is arguably the best division in boxing. With that said guys like Kelly and Taylor and Progrias show promise at 140 but it's still too early to tell how good they will be.

 

@Pimp C This is what you call a weak division when guys like this all win world titles.

Light Welterweight
Cesar Cuenca, Amir Khan, Devon Alexander, Past it retired fat Erik Morales, past it Ricky Burns, Junior Witter, Gavin Rees, Souleymayne Mbaye, Jessie Vargas, Julius Indogno, Lamont Peterson, Paulie Malignaggi, Juan Urango, Chris Algieri, Kendall Holt, Mike Alvarado, Danny Garcia, Riccardo Torres, Adrien Broner, Khabib Allakhverdiev, Viktor Postol

Light Middleweight
Cory Spinks, Ishe Smith, Cornelius Bundrage, Carlos Molina, Yuri Foreman, Joachim Alcine, Austin Trout, Verno Phillips, Sadam Ali, Liam Smith, Sergio Mora,

Middleweight has been far better than those 2 divisions.

 

hes setting you up to ask you, since MW is better, why 3G hasnt fought any good ones apart from Jacobs.

You should be smarter than this if you want to defend 3g.

try to think ahead when u are posting, like in chess.

 

I admit everything. I always say what I think is the truth. You say Welterweight is strong but I only see 2 top guys ahead of everyone else.- Spence and Crawford. You probably highly rate Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia but I see them both as very average fighters, Thurman is inactive and overrated. I see the likes of Jessie Vargas and Lamont Peterson as bums. There's some good prospects coming up though like Besputin and Kavaliauskas.

You're a guy who'll say a division is strong when Porter, D Garcia, Berto, Alexander, Vargas, Peterson are in the top 10

But weak when Sturm, Abraham, Murray, Macklin, are in the top 10.

 

And you said MW was a good division but only had an old Martinez as the only fighter worth a damn back then guys like Gaele Macklin an ancient Strum and Murray aren't even worth mentioning.

D. Garcia was a top 10 P4P fighter so was Thurman who has been hurt and inactive. Those guys at 147 were light years better than the likes of Macklin and Murray and Gaele and only a fool would agree otherwise. Stop mentioning Abraham he went to 168 like in 2010 or 2009, he hasn't been a player at 160 in years. We are talking about the MW division during the time Martinez was old which was around 2012 the division sucked back then.

 

I'm done!!! this conversation is over!!!!

You've just proved my point!

Danny Garcia is the definition of an average fighter. Only a completely deluded pro American biased fool with an agenda would even put P4P in the same sentence as a borderline bum who needed gifts to beat Herrera,Peterson and Theophane.

 

Danny Garcia is more accomplished than Macklin Gaele and Murray combined dummy. Be done because you were that along time ago when you tried to debate with me. Nice way to bow out of debate when you realize you're in too deep and out of your depth.

 

comn, even u must admit Garcia was elite in his pomp.

 

i tihnk both divisions were strong, its just that 3G only stepped up in 2014, thats why his resume before that is weak.
Before that he was equivalentt of eurochamp - still respectable but not world level.

but since then hes been banging out the wins, you cannot deny it. Just it didnt last too long.

 

who the hell has Danny Garcia ever beat who was elite or very good in their prime. haha!
He's average in every single department, all he has good is a chin. He's had loads of close fights and a few gifts. He really is nothing worth noting.

 

i dont get you its a solid world level resume in two divisions for several years on the trot.

You need to make sense, dude, to start a debate.

 

If Martin Murray and Matthew Macklin were in the extremely weak light welterweight division when Danny Garcia became a champ they'd have probably unified lol!