Did Gun Boat Smith KO Jack Johnson in a 4 round exhibition match?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    This has been a topic of debate before. Here's the offical news read.

    It was a shot to the chin that floored Johnson. It appears it was a TKO win for Smith, but Johnson's manager saved him from the knock out. While Gunboat Smith could punch, I don't think he was a real power puncher.


    [url]http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9F0DEED61F31E733A25751C1A9669D946897D6CF[/url]
     
  2. PowerPuncher

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    Dead Jack Johnson run away with your grandma Mendoza leaving your father motherless and you grandmaless?
     
  3. janitor

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    The article just says that Johnson was knocked down and got to his feet.

    So he was not knocked out end of story.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    Blame McVey. He's asking for it. This is a history boxing board. New paper reads should always be welcome.:good

    If you want any, just PM me. I'll be happy to post them.
     
  5. Luigi1985

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    C´mon, PowerPuncher, what´s that? He just tries to tell us why he thinks Jack Johnson is a bit overrated, it doesn´t change the fact that Johnson is one of the greatest ever...
     
  6. Mendoza

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    He was down and got up badly dazed. Johnson's manager cut the round short. Hence, you could argue he was saved from the knockout. Since we do not have the video, we won't know for sure. What we do know is the report, which suggests GunBoat was the better.
     
  7. janitor

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    He was knocked down in an exhibition but got up.

    Seems like something of a non event to me.
     
  8. mcvey

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    :lol:
    MENDACITY IS GETTING SURREAL NOW ,DO YOU THINK HE IS A SECRET MEMBER OF THE KLAN?:lol: :lol:
     
  9. Mendoza

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    This is out of bounds. I am objective and like all types of fighters. I won't go down to your level with such bunk.

    Now how about shot by Gunboat to the chin? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: AND :lol:!
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Right. I never said Johsnon was not a great fighter. Instead I think he is an over rated great fight of his era, and give reasons why.
     
  11. Luigi1985

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    Right. The same with me, when I say something about a fighter why I think he´s overrated for example and back that up with facts, I get attacked and get called a hater. :tired
     
  12. mcvey

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    JOHNSON was training for the Ketchel fight ,Smith was his sparring partner. In March 1970 Smith gave a taped interview to Peter Heller for his book , "In This Corner",an excellent book,,during the interview Smith stated that he knocked Johnson through the ropes during sparring ,and that Johnson ,boosted his reputation,when he got to New York by saying " they got a fellow down there my god,hell knock a brick wall down", Smith never claimed that he kod Johnson.This is just another stick for Mendacity to beat Johnson with.
     
  13. Grebfan9

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    Hi Mendoza,

    Great article. Gunboat Smith was just starting out in boxing when
    this happened. Gunboat had a good punch, though he was really
    a lightheavyweight in weight. Gunboat had decent speed and
    a decent reach, so he was able to land on Johnson.

    Like I posted recently, I don't think that Johnson's chin was that
    sturdy. Choynski KOED Johnson with ONE punch; Ketchel dropped
    Johnson with ONE punch; Gunboat decked him with ONE punch;
    Willard stopped him with ONE punch.


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  14. mcvey

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    your not a hater Luigi,we disagree about Johnson and Carnera but you are allways rational,and you post some intruiging matchups.
     
  15. mcvey

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    youll be happy to put spin on any article or old news clipping that you can twist to reflect detrimentallyon John Arthur Johnson .