Did Gun Boat Smith KO Jack Johnson in a 4 round exhibition match?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Just found this old thread ... interesting article, any idea confirming the date as Johnson is not referred to as champion ...

    Gunboat Smith was basically a cruiserweight but a killer puncher ... Dempsey said the hardest he was ever hit in his life was by Smith ...

    I am as big a fan of Johnson as just about anyone but will be the first to say he did not have an iron chin .. More like Lennox Lewis than an Ali ...
     
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    ketchel hit as hard if not harder than fitzimmons
     
  3. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ellis dropped Ali in sparring with a right hand also. Can't remember if this happened more then once, but at the time it alarmed boxing scribes. I've always been abit amazed that Jeffries thought Johnson so fast. He seemed to have average speed to me for heavy's of the day, maybe a bit faster with his feet when he wanted too, but a little clumsy comeing forward quickly due to his weight being on his back foot. There will always be questions about Jack and he caused them by whom he wouldn't fight. I can't see Louis or Ali getting much through on him and I'm not sure what his subtle offense would do to them either.
     
  4. Ramon Rojo

    Ramon Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    Gunboat Smith couldn't carry Jack's jockstrap.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Keep telling yourself that, and it still will not be true.
     
  6. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Prove the opposite.
     
  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    An interesting fact - but nothing more than that.

    Sparring and training stories are almost always exaggerated, and at any rate, they're not real fights. One of them may be going easy while the other decided to go in top gear.... this is boxing, those things can happen. Greg Page dropped Tyson in '89 (it is on film), but that doesn't change my opinion about Tyson the slightest bit.
     
  8. he grant

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    OK, how many top heavyweight contenders and heavyweight champions did Ketchel KO ?