Did Gunboat Smith deserve a title shot?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Oct 18, 2011.


  1. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Even Gunboat Smith didnt try to say he KOd Johnson in an exhibition:

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  2. mcvey

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    Wonderful find S. K :good ,I wonder if at last we can put this to rest?
     
  3. mcvey

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    Without film it is hard to say if Johnson struggled with Ross you contend? Despite multiple reports and ,the referees stated opinion that Johnson could have taken Ross out anytime after the first round?

    But, you are perfectly happy[ even eager], to accept that Hart beat Johnson without any film evidence? Ditto O Brien.
    Why does this attitude not suprise me? :lol:
    In an earlier post you stated Smith should have got a title shot just after he dropped Johnson in sparring,despite the fact that Smith was a 4 month novice fighter, no doubt if he had taken him on after a period of suitable bally hoo [emulating Jeffries and Munroe], and,beaten the **** out of him ,you would now be castigating Johnson for beating up a tyro boxer.:lol:

    Tom Sharkey?Johnson sparred with him when Jack was a youngster and made him look as big a **** as I do you.
    This is well documented, Johnson was sacked for embarrassing Sailor Tom. You don't see me ,or anyone else asking why Sharkey did not fight Johnson then though do you?
    In your rabid obsession to slander Johnson you backtrack on your own arguments ,you are so flexible you could disappear up your own self- regarding arse
    IF ONLY YOU WOULD?
    Any response on those primary sources, and those mistakes you aver you spotted in the Gunboat Smith post?
    I THOUGHT NOT!
     
  4. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/120310645?searchTerm=pedlar palmer&searchLimits=

    scroll down this article and you will find proof from a "reputable citizen of new york who has no reason to be talking falsely" that Willard Johnson fight was a fix. Interestingly, though, it also mentions Gunboat Smith. Gunboat was offered the Johnson fight as a fix before Johnson Willard but he ducked Johnson, because he didnt want to win in those circumstances.

    I think that puts this whole think to bed doesnt it? Gunboat Knocked down Johnson once and the only reason he didnt fight and win the title from Johnson was because he didnt want to beat him.