Did Haye duck Wlad by not agreeing to terms?

Exactly, the term 'undisputed' doesn't relate to winning all the belts. It's proving without dispute that you are the best at given weight. No-one can touch Haye at Cruiser.

 

:goodI wish more would see it this way

 

Read the guys previous posts. He's not a Klitchko fan but IS a Haye hater. Having looked through your history Blade, (something which I did when we first started our debate) It was plain to see you just plain dislike the guy. All subjectiveness goes out the window and you become objective and set about putting Haye, and anyone who defends him, down.

 

I watched Wlad even before he was champ. I saw the Puritty match and was happy when Wlad lost. I also was happy when Sanders won and I was rooting big time for LL against Vitali.As for Haye-Wlad, I am probably gonna root for nobody.

Prime Rahman was better than Prime Barett.
Out of prime Rahman was better than out of Prime Barett.

Even at this point, it is a difference but not a big time difference.

I am just objective and think that Haye has done enough talking and should bck it up by signing the contract or taking on a Top contender or a guy like James Toney.

 

You are mistaking.

I dislike the way he has acted so far at heavyweight and I dislike the way some of his fans are defending everything he does.

I think he is a skilled boxer and brings more to the table in terms of charisma for instance like some of those Russians. He just needs to back up what he says, so far he has not done it. He needs to sign the contract.

 

I think you have your vocabulary mixed up at the bottom there.But yes,anybody who suggests Haye ducked Rahman and Toney to fight Barrett has a screw loose for sure.After suggesting that Haye ducked Rahman he went on to say that they had entered negotiations.If you duck somebody,you don't do it by entering negotiations or in relation to this thread,not by running your mouth off either

 

Barrett and Rahman are not top contenders so lets forget that argument.

 

Haye's not ducking Wlad, he just dont want to sign a contract where he has to fight the Klit brothers 3 times in a row. I dont blame him, I could see Wlad maybe wanting a rematch if he loses, but why Vitali? The guy could hold things up for another 3 and half years again, and pull the injury card whenever he wants and Haye will be forced sit dormant while Vitali plays games.

 

My opinion is the Haye camp wanted an easy first fight at heavyweight where he would look good.

Barett provides for an easier fight than Toney or Rahman no matter what you guys say.After all his talk, everybody was disappointed when he fought Barett. But it is even more disappointing to see that you guys defend that decision.

I may have given the impression to be a Haye hater but I am not. I am just calling it how I see it.

 

Actually I dont have a problem with Haye getting a shot.. was bothers me are his fans that say he is good for the division... as of now NO. He hasnt done anything... in the future maybe so... he needs to fight and stop the talking. IMO he is "potentially good for the division" Unless you think running your mouth qualifies as good for the division:yep

 

But IMO Rahman is a much better name on a resume then barrett. Rahamn former champ and beat LL

Barrett Nothing much

 

Well you were disappointed he fought Barrett in his first fight yet people complain that he is getting a shot at no.1 in only his second fight as a HWnutYou can't have your cake and eat it too

 

Exactly.

I would have even picked Haye to beat Rahman. It is just that Rahman is a tougher opponent and puncher than Barett.

 

That clause is long time gone now... that was 2 contracts ago... that excuse is old news now.
Haye has had this new contract almost 2 weeks and we have not heard 1 word from team Haye about it... the way he talks, if it was that bad of a contract, we would have heard something by now

 

This is old. The new contract, one rematch fot Wlad, and Haye wants to fight both of them.

Wlad wants the fight, and if Haye wants it he should sign the contract.