Did Haye duck Wlad by not agreeing to terms?

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  1. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I used to assume that with all boxers it was almost like a WWE character they would create for the cameras. Then when the cameras went off the real guy comes out and would be down to earth. But as you watch these guys grow old you realise certian things, Hamed IS a cocky little *****. When he had that car incident I remember him showing little remorse to the victims family and watched an interview with him on TV and he was so cold about it. RJJ and PBF are the same, Bill Gates doesn't go around telling everyone that he's the richest guy in the world so why do these guys feel the need to do it. I just haven't seen the quieter side of Haye yet thats all. Is it arrogance, cockyness or confidence, I don't know...
     
  2. RUSKULL

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    That's fairly standard when Champions offer a fight to a contender anyway.
     
  3. CHEF

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    I thinks it Haye that is worried he might lose before he can fight Wlad not the other way around... I think that is why Haye has had only 1 fight since moving up... to much risk for his big payday
     
  4. king s

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    Whoever they r both fighting(if not each other) they need to get it sorted its draging on to long now.
     
  5. CHEF

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    Its all in Haye's corner. He has a signed contract in front of him for almost 2 weeks now and he has until March 21st to sign or Wlad moves on:deal
     
  6. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye cannot control whether or not Wladimir wins or loses.He can influence his own fights though so if he were to lose it'd be down to him.
     
  7. king s

    king s Well-Known Member Full Member

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    aint haye saying there trying 2 put terms in the contract which could see him fight vlad again and vitali if he wins.
     
  8. Random1

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    That is so two weeks ago now. Now the clauses have been removed but he still hasn't signed.
     
  9. CHEF

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    1 rematch with Wlad......standard rematch clause

    1 unification fight with Vitali..........what Haye wanted ( according to Haye & Booth)

    Thats it:deal

    haye is smart... if he beats wlad:nut he makes even more $ in a rematch... if he wins that:nut,, then a huge fight with Vitali which might be the biggest fight of them all $$$$$$$

    He needs to sign
     
  10. CHEF

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    the 3rd fight was removed... but haye still wanted vitali if it can happen... like I said.. Haye is smart... he is lining himself up for a possible 3 fight deal with the biggest money makers in the HW division..

    There is NO reason for him not to sign.... unless he scared:|:|:rofl
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Wlad has offered a contract. It is now up to Haye to sign it. If Haye balks, then the fans lose.
     
  12. THE BLADE

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    Yes, he needs to sign it.

    Another thing is that Haye may not be ready for Wlad because he only had one fight against a tomato can at heavyweight. I would have recommand Haye to fight a couple contenders at heavyweight first.That would have certainly increased his chances, much the way Holyfield did.
     
  13. suckeggs

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    the words of Adama Boothe:

    “I want to make this absolutely clear, because unfortunately the KMG manager, Bernd Bonte, seems to be taking things too personally and trying to confuse the issue,” begun Booth. “The one-sided interview he did with biased keyboard warrior Dan Rafael (ESPN.com) – a man who has shown a longstanding dislike for David Haye - has distorted some of the facts.



    “David will fight Wladimir anywhere they choose, and give them the two rematch options they have requested.



    “In regards to the rematches clause, I am baffled as to why Bonte seems to have forgotten our last conversation about this. We said they could have the two rematches they wanted, which effectively means David’s next three fights could be in Germany against either Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko.



    “What they’re also demanding is that if David were to win against Wladimir and then have a mandatory challenger obligation (non-Klitschko) he would have to immediately vacate the title he won from Wladimir. This would mean David could win three fights against the Klitschko brothers and still not be in a position to officially call himself heavyweight champion of the world at the end of it.”



    Booth continued: “They (the Klitschkos) would make exactly the same money in Germany as they would in England because we have dropped our figure to go to Germany. If they take a proposed fight with Chris Arreola, they will make substantially less. So people can now work this out for themselves.



    “The original deal to co-promote the event would never work because of unacceptable terms. However, we’re willing to sacrifice a little on our side just to get this fight made.



    “David doesn’t want to dodge Wladimir and just pick and choose his way through boring, fringe contenders. He wants to fight the best and restore some excitement to the heavyweight division
     
  14. suckeggs

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    Not too sure but i think that squashes the bull**** that Chef was coming up with that it's Haye asking for the 2 rematch clause. Nothing has been said about the new contract publicly but if the rules and stipulations the K2 promotions were putting in the 1st one is anything to go by i wouldn't believe anybody who says it's cut and dry that it's all down to Haye signing a contract
     
  15. BoxingFanNo1

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