Did Holyfield beat Lewis in their 2nd fight? Round by Round Breakdown

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by streetsaresafer, Aug 24, 2007.


  1. Boinko

    Boinko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've found a lot of the bias in Holyfield's favour comes from frustrated Americans who are pissed that a non-American heavyweight was the dominant champ in the division.
    So, frustrated little revisionists that they are, they are trying to alter the reality of what exactly happened and paint it in a light that reflects favourably on their American fighter, Holyfield.

    Guys, we know it hurts that Lennox was a better heavyweight than Evander. But dealing with the pain by concocting lies and rewriting history is just plain sad.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's more than just sad, it's pathetic.
     
  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The ESB forums are very much pro-Lewis forums, seemingly devoid of objectivity where Lennox is concerned. Whether that is because Lewis is a recently-retired fighter, and/or because many here are fans of boxers from the UK, and/or because many feel American fighters are given undue accolades in general (and so Lewis is praised to try to 'counteract' that pro-American perception) is open to debate.

    But any ESB forum poll involving Lewis which I have seen undoubtedly ends up in Lewis' favor, and usually by a wide margin.

    Make of that what you will.
     
  4. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    I believe that Lewis is simply given a lot more respect outside the U.S (Europe, Australia, UK, Canada, Asia, etc) than inside it (i'd argue, "the respect he deserves" :D), and this is an 'international' forum, perhaps only 40-45% being from the states, the poll results simply reflects that (it's not that the world is anti-American, it's just that the states were never big on Lewis).
     
  5. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    That depends on the poll, but what I make of it is that Lewis wins by a wide margin because that is the correct answer. Not rocket science.

    Post similar polls on other forums and see where it gets you. I post elsewhere more than I post here, and Lewis is ranked about the same everywhere else, including on American websites.

    The only difference between here and anywhere else that I have seen is that here there are more Klitschko fans.

    Just because a poll doesn't give you the answer you want doesn't make the results wrong. :roll:

    Cry me a river, sore losers.
     
  6. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The whole theory of Lewis getting a make up decision for the first fight comes from those watching on HBO and hearing Foreman say that was possible, you must remember though that Holyfield had been outspoken before the 2nd fight about what he thought was biased commentary against him by Foreman in the first fight. So maybe Foreman was trying to make up to Holyfield by saying that. In fact even in the first round on HBO Foreman is saying Holyfield had staarted off by beating Lewis to the jab, he must have had his eyes shut however because Lewis had landed 3 and pushed Holyfield back with a left hook at that point lol. If you watch it with the Sky commentary you would feel it was a virtual whitewash. If you watch it without commentary you will get the truest score.
     
  7. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    For the record, I thought Lewis won both fights, but hardly made many fans from either fight. He ran and held like a biatch.
     
  8. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can it sunshine! I enjoy this site very much so I don't appreciate it when racists little pricks like you try to drag it down to the gutter.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Uhmmm, Thats ******ed.....and wrong :deal

    Awful way to score a round. What happens if 'Fighter A' wins the 1st 2 minutes, but then 'Fighter B' knocks him down in the 3rd minute? Is that round a draw then? :think
     
  10. Sonny's jab

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    I'm from the UK and proud to be British.

    But there is an undeniable bias for Lennox Lewis on this forum.

    All reasonable boxing fans should agree that :

    1. Lewis was ROBBED in the first fight with Holyfield.
    2. The second fight was very close, many of the individual rounds are too close to call with 100% conviction, and the result is therefore debatable.
    3. Both Holyfield and Lewis are all-time great heavyweights, and who ranks above the other is a close debatable matter of opinion.
    4. Lennox Lewis did NOT dominate the heavyweight division for most of the 1990s but he was one of the elite fighters from '91 or '92 onwards.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will, and what I make of it was that he was a great fighter. I just read a article by the Ring on a mythical match up between Lewis and Foreman, so should try reading it as it might give you a better perspective of what the majority think of Lewis and why. I like others here, don't just like a particular fighter for no reason, and Lewis' personality was such, that he was hard to like period. So therefore it must have been his actions in the ring that warranted what people thing of him. You obviously have a low regard and appreciation of him, based on what you've seen, and others have a different view based on what they've seen.

    For example some will see the Tua fight as a sign that a big stong boxer was cautious and didn't go all out for the kill, and others will appreciate that he controlled the ring and adhered to the basic philosophy of boxing which is to hit and not get hit. Neither view is right or wrong.
     
  12. prepasur

    prepasur Warrior Spirit Full Member

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    i see it today and isee evander as the winner
     
  13. prepasur

    prepasur Warrior Spirit Full Member

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    men i score the fight 117-114 for Holyfield

    i have 6 rounds to 3, 3 even its just my score

    i think it was a bad fight not a lot to score
     
  14. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I second this opinion.

    @paulfv: Lewis lost the last 2 fight polls I made involving him, although he did do well, however it must be noted that some of the votes for him were indeed based on fiction about the other fighter.
     
  15. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I agree with your card and that was the way I saw it the first round IMO Holyfield won he did out jab Lewis and worked him a bit, I think Lewis got a bit more credit in this fight based on the fight he should have won the first time around.

    Two wrongs do not make a right, I felt Holyfield won the rematch.