Did hopkins actually lose to a white boy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 1whites, Aug 27, 2011.


  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

    10,980
    6,713
    Aug 7, 2010
    Who?
     
  2. One Round

    One Round Hertfordshire's Finest Full Member

    2,964
    15
    Nov 24, 2008
    If you're refering to Alan Minter v Marvin Hagler 30 odd years ago, that isn't what he said. And I suspect you know it.
     
  3. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,030
    3
    Jul 3, 2011
    :good
     
  4. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

    38,201
    2,600
    Jul 22, 2004
    Not only did he lose, but that white boy did the 'Joe shuffle' on his ass after pretending to be hurt by a non existant low blow.
     
  5. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,030
    3
    Jul 3, 2011
    :D And HOP was scared to fight him . Opted to fight some welterweights instead !:hi:
     
  6. Goodfella

    Goodfella Team Elite 2012 Cool Cat Full Member

    18
    0
    Aug 20, 2009
    Yes. Comfortably.
     
  7. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,558
    6
    Aug 8, 2007
    Joe Calzaghe stole the fight on punch stats and volume punching. Happens that Joe is not your everyday Joe Doe that someone like a 43 year old Hopkins can take lightly and he did rest on a first round knockdown. I don't know if Hopkins was running out of gas and feeling the pace but he well took every chance to get his breath together again down the stretch. It was not a Mike Mccallum-James Toney I or a Sugar Ray Leonard-Marvellous Marvin hagler Superfight or even a Bernard Hopkins-Jermain taylor kinda fight but it was not a bore, it was an intriguing clash of styles and of excellent seasoned technicians.
     
  8. timagen

    timagen Guest

  9. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

    28,924
    20
    Jul 4, 2009
    In the end there are some close fights that might have gone against hopkins, the calzaghe one and one of the taylor fights based on how you score it perhaps but as it stands now jones jr. is the only person to clearly beat hopkins.
     
  10. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

    7,630
    1,123
    Jan 8, 2011
    Who's this noob spastic? Yet another bitter alt who can't accept the truth?
     
  11. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

    65,864
    16
    Mar 5, 2006
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,982
    3,111
    Dec 11, 2009
    This content is protected
    . I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

    This content is protected

    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
    2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
    3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
    4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
    5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
    a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
    b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
    c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
    d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
    e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
    f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
    g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
    h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
    i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

    I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

    6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
    7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
    8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
    9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.

    Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
    Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
    Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

    What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

    After the fight many called for Hopkins to retire after how bad Calzaghe made him look and Hopkins was even considered a shot underdog against a fighter 2 divisions lower. Now that Hopkins has shown that he is still a top fighter and scored some good wins, nuthuggers want to rewrite history
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,982
    3,111
    Dec 11, 2009
     
  14. Sidious

    Sidious Guest

    all hopkins fans should take this L like men,in the arss.nothing to be a shame,Calzaghe was the better boxer.
     
  15. WarpedDesign

    WarpedDesign Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,345
    1
    Aug 31, 2010
    Liar. You're referring to Alan Minter and he said of Hagler "No black man is taking my title."