Did Hopkins Go All Out Against De La Hoya?

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  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Or was he holding back?
     
  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He went all out,definetely
     
  3. The Thruth!!!!!

    The Thruth!!!!! Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins speed really surprised me in that fight...One of the most disciplined athletes ever IMO...weighed in at 158....Oscar boxed beautifully in the first half of the fight but I think Hopkins was taking his time tying to figure Oscar out and break him down...which he did
     
  4. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's up man. I think he fought a good tactical fight, but he definetly brought his A game cause if he didn't De La Hoya would of won on points because of his speed. Hopkins cordination and boxing looked good in that fight. That fight was where de La Hoya actually peaked, he looked better than ever IMO. That was the last time he looked great and possibly his best. It had to do more with Hopkins why he couldn't get his flurries off but he fought well.
     
  5. 1Kolijn

    1Kolijn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    off course he went all out.. why would he ever hold back? it´s not like they are brothers or anything ? :huh
     
  6. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Hopkins fought an excellent strategic fight, but the 39-year old Hopkins isn't going all out on anyone really. At his best he would have ran over DLH if he chose to.
     
  7. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    To me there is no question that Hopkins held back. NONE. From the outset he was clearly at a fraction of his normal speed and intensity. Whether it was part of some fix, or just his wanting to suck up to De La Hoya, Hopkins was definately not himself that night. That's my view, and I feel like I know Hopkins pretty darn well. Watch his entire career in succession, and then watch that fight.
     
  8. QUIDO3UIDO

    QUIDO3UIDO Member Full Member

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    some of you guys are smoking crack. Hopkins let dlh dance around and jab for the first 6 rds. as soon as bhop started moving fward the fight was over. no question bhop carried him the first 6. a lot of posters here need to get GLASSES.
     
  9. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At the end of the 5th he decided to start taking over and he did. By the 10th, he was really going to pour it on, as he knows as we all know that Oscar is only an 8 round fighter these days.
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    He was running in 3rd then eventually 4th gear during the fight. In hindsight people will say he was holding back more than usual but that wasn't the case. He always liked to study before teeing off around this time in his career. He did the same against Trinidad for the first 6 rounds. IMO Hopkins had a lot more respect for De La Hoya's skills than Trinidad's. While the power of De La Hoya wasn't as lethal as Trinidad's, he did have the skill to win rounds based on his better boxing versatility.
     
  11. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    By this time in his career, Hopkins was generally starting slower. He was pretty aggressive in the Joppy fight in 2003, but look at his fights following it.

    Allen 3
    DLH
    Eastman
    Taylor 1

    It was the norm for Hopkins to be more deliberate and slow-paced, study the opponent, and then pick up at a faster pace as the fight went on.

    DLH held his own and did better than I had expected, but Hopkins had pretty much taken over by round 7.
     
  12. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    What struck me most in that matchup was how much naturally larger Hop was than DLH. You just got the sense that Oscar's punches were as effective as gnat farts on Venus. I agree hopkins could have steamrolled him at any time -- much too large for DLH.
     
  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Mostly agreed. However, consider that Hopkins usually turned it on late whereas DLH usually faded late. On that note, I think his strategy was always predicated on waiting for DLH to start fading, and indeed, when DLH did begin to visibly fade, Hopkins turned it up.
     
  14. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    The poll results are telling thus far.. This fight was an utter farce. :!:
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Poll results don't mean anything around here.

    75% of fans thought DLH won the Mosley rematch, but that does not make it so. For 75% of the fans also picked DLH to win before the fight.

    And the majority of reporters at ring side had Mosley winning, as did most objective observers.

    :smoke