Did it seem like Joshua doesn't want the Fury fight next?

Joshua's reaction was disappointing.

I was expecting him to agree to a fight, but his behavior showed he doesn't really want it.

Maybe he has his eyes on Deontay Wilder for his next fight, or maybe he just wants to retire.

 

Didn't Joshua also defend against Molina, after Wilder had KO'd him?

Price in Britain would have been a much bigger money fight than Molina, but Price KO'd Joshua in sparring worse than Dubois did. Jennings also would have been a better opponent than Molina. Ortiz better still.

 

Wasn't the Molina fight a contractual thing where if Haymon allowed Martin to fight AJ, a couple of his guys get shots

That's the reason him and Dominic B got shots

Nobody gave a crap about Price at that point and he was begging it

AJ was in the stage that he could sell a building out fighting a broomstick so it worked for all parties

And please, how do you know it was worse than the Dubois knock down?

Like you saw it...

 

Joshua will duck Fury to fight a shot to pieces 41 year old Wilder next:

[url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/joshua-will-duck-fury-to-fight-41-year-old-wilder-next.748287/[/url]

 

Then it shouldn't have taken place at all.

A former unified champion shouldn't be entertaining these fights, it's bad for the sport.

 

Maybe Joshua fancies it, maybe he doesn't but (Really loathe typing this next sentence out)

I understand and would make the same choice given his and Hearns position.

They have an agreed to contract and now the people trying to change it are basically telling them to bend over and take any complications that come with it.

Why? So Netflix, which is making some sort of reality Fury TV show, will be happy? So two brits can fight at MSG where Fury gains the psychological edge?

Nonsense. You signed a contract, you want to amend it, pay up.

 

It's even less in their long term financial interest to let someone out of a signed contract for no reason. How many contracts with endorsements do they have now? How many in the future after AJ retires?

It is stupid to set that precisedent. Joshua does it now, lets them out of the deal no consequences, no fee and everyone will try to screw him and Hearn over because they saw both cave here.

It's worse for his brand than getting knocked out cold. Business is business.

 

I don't know who to believe at this point.

Eddie is (as usual) the only guy talking. And Eddie says there was a signed agreement -- presumably signed not only by him/AJ but by Fury/his reps, to fight this November at Wembley.

Then somewhere along the way Dana White/TKO got his/their nose under the tent. And next thing you know, Turki and Sela (and I never even heard of that Saudi organization until this week...) are demanding that the fight can only happen in the US, preferably MSG (which has about 20% Wembley's capacity), and they want Dana to help promote it. And Fury's saying "Don't ask me.... talk to those guys..."

Well, of course Eddie hates Dana White -- so much so that he's mounting a best-defense-is-a-good-offense by trying to pry Dana's own MMA fighters away from UFC/TKO. And Eddie's saying now that he's responded to Turki/Sela with a list of requirements (such as a true-up in AJ's fee to cover a presumed greater tax burden if he fights in the US .... and zero promotional role for Dana) and Dana's leaking that Eddie's making unreasonable demands....

Stalemate.

The only way I see this getting done at this point is if AJ and Fury themselves get together and agree on something -- primarily location .... and then not get too hung up on the $$. Because, with Usyk out of the picture, and neither guy likely itching to take on Dubois (again, for AJ) or Kabayel, facing each other offers probably their best mutual paycheck at this point.

And please don't try to tell me Wilder can be a big draw at this point...