Did jack Johnson draw a color line himself?

Langford and McVey weren't fighting for big money in Australia. :think

Can you show concrete offers of big purse offers for these fights ? Johnson received $5000 for challenging Burns.

I don't take seriously talk of promoting heavyweight title fights in early 1900's Russia.

Johnson was offered $30,000 to fight Langford in Paris, but that was for both of them,with Johnson to receive 60% and no profits from the movie rights.

 

The black money for Langford was not there vs Dempsey either and the whites would pay for him to fight anyone so was Langford his best choice. This is something that Johnson can be forgiven for but not Dempsey because he was white, funny but I see Holmes being forgiven for his avoidance's and Johnson for his (possibly for good reason) but for Jack Dempsey they pick hairs a double standard on ESB

 

McVey,

1 ) In 1914 the NSC offered Johnson £6000, which was approximately $30,000, to face Langford. Johnson called the offer "ridiculous" and rejected it. (Townsville Daily Bulletin, 17th Feb 1914)

2 )French promoter Theodore Vienne says he offered Johnson $25,000 and then $30,000 to meet Langford in Paris. Johnson turned him down. Johnson's continual refusal to meet the best challengers led to the French Boxing Federation stripping him of the title (Winnipeg Tribune, 27th Dec 1913)

3 ) McIntosh made a series of offers to Johnson: $60,000 to fight Langford, McVey and Jeannette in Australia (NYT 9 Dec 1912); $30,000 for an unnamed opponent that the author presumes to be Langford (NYT 26th June 1912); $40,000 for Langford and McVey with $5000 expenses and a $10,000 forfeit (NYT 9th August 1912). Then there was a reported $100,000 to fight Langford and Jeannette in Australia and Flynn in Paris (NYT Oct 12 1912)

And so on and so on. You can find tons of similar offers stretching from soon after Johnson beat Burns right up to his loss to Willard. The interest was there, the money was there and Johnson still wouldn't accept. You may dismiss all that as hate and remain bigoted and agenda driven on the subject.

PS: This post is also directed at those who want and see sources. I provided three above. There are more...

 

So if he signed to fight both Mcvea and Langford... but got in trouble with the Mann act... how did he draw the color line?

 

Peggy Bettinson the matchmaker and promoter as well as the erstwhile General Secretary of the NSC offered Johnson $5000 to fight Langford with Johnson to pay his own expenses.

This is Johnson's written reply.

" I don't see that the National Sporting Club has the right to dictate to me as to how much I shall receive for my appearance ,and boxing ability.If they don't want to give my price,[ which is thirty thousand dollars,] win , lose, or draw, they can call things off.I am a boxing man and can now get my price,and I dont care what the public thinks."


Here is a cable dated Feb 9th 1914 ,presented ,and published in the newspaper The Argus. The National Sporting Club offers Jack Johnson £3000 to defend his title against Sam Langford in London , the purse to be split 60/40.No film rights to either boxer .
Johnson was getting ready to defend against Moran ,he stated in print he would fight Langford for £6000. .
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END OF ARGUMENT

Stop with the bull****.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7225662

 

Mcvey,

Take my advice for once and open your eyes and ears. It obvious that Johnson Did not take several offers to fight the best.

 

I've provided a primary source that blows your mythical £6000 from the NSC clear out of the water , you ,as usual provided Jack ****.

Why don't you do the decent thing, cut your ****ing throat.

 

Aw, poor baby, can't take the facts. Take a hint, skip my posts. It doesn't matter what crap you come up with, we all know Johnson pulled out of a signed contract to fight Langford in 1909 as champion. DUCK, DUCK, DUCK, DUCK, DUCK.

As Champion, Johnson could have fought the best anywhere. Promoters blame him. His own manager calls him shady. Get with the program!

By the way Mr. Lair, are you going to tell us what the purse was in the Jack Johnson vs. Battling Jim championship fight? You said you knew