Did James Jeffries retire too soon?

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That´s what I meant, Mendoza. No criticizsm to Johnson, but you must always be careful what´s written in biographies, and Clay II acts like what is written there is automatically the truth, I also never read about the "long count" in the Haines-fight...

 

Well then go back and read it. It's there. If it wasn't true, then would the book be published at all, or if it was, wouldn't there be a lawsuit by a Haines decendant or something? Well, there isn't, and it wasn't worded as something that was just speculation, it was worded as a historical fact, and like I said, no controversy coming from Haines' relatives, so more than likely it is true.:good

 

Well, then if that's not what you meant, then you changed the subject from what I was talking about.

 

You can write everything in a book. Read for example a biography from a polictician, than you have a journey to the fairyland for free. Btw, perhaps Haines did say something about that, but it´s so long ago and it´s hard to immagine that now someone remembers and say "Yes, I know, he said this and that", or to find a report in a serious newspaper...

 

I still can't believe you'll go so far as to refute facts and legitimate documentation.:-(

 

Don´t you get it? You have no serious sources, only a biography from a fighter, and he said that he was roobed in a fight. Woah, how surprising...

 

Why don't you go read the book instead of making unwise assumptions?

 

I said even months ago that I read the book. I have a friend, who collects boxing-books, -magazines, newspapers, etc...


You have really a brain like your role model Ali...

 

Well, then read it again. It's all there in black and white.

 

I can memorize things in contrast to you!

 

Didnt he only have like 20 fights and all the others were exhibitions?

 

You're evading the topic.

 

You evaded the topic first and I just answered you...