Did Joe Frazier have a good voice?

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  1. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    Ali often mocked Joe's singing range...."worst of all, he thinks he can sang!"

    I got a glimpse of his vocals in the documentary of Ali-Frazier not so long ago. I was impressed, better than I thought it would be.

    Is Joe Frazier's singing voice underrated and did Ali unfairly give it a bad rep?
     
  2. Bo Bo Olson

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    Ali hated Joe for giving him money when Ali was in exile.
    I'd bet a case of beer, Ali never paid Joe back any money either.
     
  3. Chinxkid

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    Joe looked good on stage, moved pretty good too, looked like he liked James Brown a lot, but nah, Joe couldn't really sing...

    But then, neither could Ali, though he was probably a little better. I heard him sing, "Stand By Me" once. Was it part of his movie, "The Greatest"? I'm not sure, but I'll just say it's a good thing that they could both fight!
     
  4. Bonavena25

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  5. mcvey

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    No, Joe was pretty grim .
     
  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Nope, but Frazier made more money than he ever did, fighting Ali.


    I think he sounded pretty good on that beer commercial, by the way.
     
  7. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Is Joe Frazier's singing voice underrated?"

    As a singer, he had a great left hook.

    The beer commercial did sound fair, but was that really Joe without enhancement?
     
  8. Bonavena25

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    I believe it was acapella.
     
  9. Bill1234

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    Well, if he was about 45 years younger, and went on American Idol, he wouldn't be passed through to Hollywood.
     
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  11. prime

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    I've never heard Joe Frazier demonstrate vocal range or quality of any note (no pun intended). To answer Bonavena 25's question, no, Joe's voice is not at all underrated. Voicewise, he's a poor singer.

    But as Chinxkid notes, he had stage presence and obviously loved to perform. An entertainer is more than just a great voice.

    As for Ali, his rendition of "Stand By Me" was a comparatively better effort with a song that is not so easy to do. His vocal tools were not bad but he didn't have one tenth the inspiration for singing as he did for ring performance.

    Both did good to keep their day jobs.
     
  12. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Frazier sang about as well as he swam.
     
  13. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He sang at a charity celebrity boxing event here in NZ a few years back and really sounded like he was just grunting and mumbling. Admittedly he was old and i couldnt understand much he said in his commentary either
     
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  14. Bonavena25

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    Thanks for your comments.

    I was really referring to the seventies, when "boxing was bold, bright, and beautiful", and Frazier was semi-coherant.

    There is a clip of him singing in a documentary called "The Fight", around 1970. Very impressive and the impetus for the thread.

    That cameo plus the beer commericial indicates someone with serious talent, talent that went awry as the years chugged on and defects brought on by several tumultous years in the ring came to the fore.
     
  15. Vantage_West

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    well he was philly soul/blues singer. most southern soul artists at the time sounded like joe. listen to tex king or rich viser they sound like fraizer...just didnt include a left hookthere is some footage when he was younger and he had a very strong gravelly voice. but his voice seems to have gone in his 30's. he mos def lost that voice, he sounds very clear and solid...but he clearly lost it.

    but this is also akin to Ray Robinson, he was always noted for playing piano, dancing and a singing voice in his boxing days and tried to make a career out of it in his retirement. thing is that he wasnt that good....good enough to impress some friends but not careerwise