Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring

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  1. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was reading a book earlier and it said "Rumour had it Joe Gans dropped Dempsey in sparring"

    Any truth to it?
     
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  2. McGrain

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    What was the book?
     
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  3. Shake

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    Did Dempsey ever win a spar?

    Could be that Dempsey was such a draw and a superstar that things like this popped up.
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Of course, things stranger than fiction happen in sparring, but sparring Chineese whispers are also prolific.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    :lol:
    He was a beast in sparring though.
     
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  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sparring is upside down world, a lightweight and middleweight knock down and beat up the world heavyweight champ, Dempsey fights big black men.....upside down world it is

    Anything can happen in boxing/sparring but yea I doubt it
     
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  7. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Dempsey was 15 ****ing years old when Gans died of TB. Simply did not happen.
     
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    Oh come on! Dempsey was riding the rails as a 6 year old, fighting in tough mining towns against tough miners, some of them out-weighing mordern heavyweight by up to 100lbs, and he generally remained unbeaten...he would have stepped in to give Gans a workout in a flash.
     
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  9. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In that case... Gans was black and Dempsey ducked him. Truth!
     
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  10. mcvey

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    I hope this doesn't get me banned , but I believe the Joe Gans referred to is the gentleman on the right of this photo. ie Panama Joe Gans, but you knew that didn't you Hamish?

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    I dont think there are many stories of Dempsey being floored in sparring ,it seems most went out of their way to avoid making him unduly upset. According to Larry Gains, he punished the respectful ones , but he crucified any that got adventurous.
     
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    Panama Joe Gans, with Wills ,and Louis.1938


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    Godfrey was the main sparring partner
    Tate was used for strength
    Jamaica Kid for brawling
    Gans for speed .
    [I pinched this info from CBZ.]
    BTW. Gans beat Dempsey in 1923 and Wills in 1927 .
     
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  12. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I assumed we were talking about the Old Master, Joe Gans, not Panama Joe Gans, or Allentown Joe Gans, or Italian Joe Gans. So, yes, a boxer named Joe Gans probably did drop Dempsey.
     
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  13. Johnstown

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    somehow what you just wrote reminded me of this....[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEjo0ajod1M[/ame]
     
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  15. FastHands(beeb)

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    Absolutely brilliant clip!
     
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