Did Jones hurt his legacy by fighting on after Ruiz?

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  1. bennyj

    bennyj Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nah, but he hurt his legacy by not fighting DM and Calzaghe in his prime..Calzaghe wouldve busted him up back in their primes
     
    bennyj, Mar 20, 2009
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  2. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    yes no question
     
    Archie_Moore, Mar 20, 2009
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  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he was still a big favorite going into the tarver rematch
     
    asero, Mar 20, 2009
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  4. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol :rofl Roy Jones would have knock calzaghe out cold back then. a 100 yrs old jones knockdown calzaghe for pit sake. In his prime jones would have finish him in the 1st round. After getting KD jones would use his speed to **** calzaghe's world up. Jones by KTFO :good
     
    Vitor Belfort, Mar 20, 2009
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  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hindsight is 20/20 as to what fights should have been made, but there was never a good point to make a Calzaghe fight.

    Jones had moved to LHW before Calzaghe came on the scene.

    And if you went with the hypothetical prime for prime, Roy would have to be the clear favourite.


    And Darius ducked Roy as much as Roy ducked Darius.
     
    cuchulain, Mar 20, 2009
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  6. jones1

    jones1 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes he most certainly hurt his legacy. After the fight he was considered a head to head superman with the fastest reflexes ever seen and a step above his fellow competition, nowadays he's considered chinny and some believe Calzaghe would have beaten him in a prime for prime sense. He would have had that invincible mystique about him that would make him highly respected for years to come.
     
    jones1, Mar 21, 2009
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  7. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Obviously, yes.

    If he had retired after the first Tarver fight, or right after Ruiz, he goes down possibly as the greatest ever. At least Top 5, because we would never have seen him beaten, and the ability he possessed....
     
    Marnoff, Mar 21, 2009
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  8. Soloman

    Soloman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    are you saying hagler only lost once by that statement...cause he actually lost a few times...
     
    Soloman, Mar 21, 2009
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  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was responding to this:

    And after Hearns, Hagler's only loss was to Leonard.
     
    cuchulain, Mar 21, 2009
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  10. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He definitely hurt his legacy by fighting on after Ruiz, or even after the first Tarver fight, but I doubt knowledgable fans are really going to discredit how good he really was before his downfall late in his career.
     
    Zaryu, Mar 21, 2009
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  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes only somewhat because of his two KO losses ..But history will remember more his accomplishments than his demise ..
     
    Imperial1, Mar 21, 2009
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  12. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed
     
    vargasfan1985, Mar 21, 2009
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  13. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely,and continues to do so as he continues his boxing career even though he's past it.
     
    Clinton, Mar 24, 2009
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  14. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    RJJ could've retired after the Ruiz fight, but should've definitely retired after the 1st Tarver fight...then Calzaghe would've baited him out of retirement earlier and he would've beat Calzaghe...would've been top 10-15 ATG had he done it like that...now he's about a top 25-30 ATG which still is very good...
     
    Jinx, Mar 25, 2009
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  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    In light of more recent RJJ activity, both wins and losses, BUMP.
    This content is protected
     
    cuchulain, Dec 7, 2009
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