Did Juan Manuel Márquez win the war with Manny Pacquiao?

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    1st fight- JMM won 9-3
    2nd fight- JMM won 8-4
    3rd fight- JMM won 8-4
    4th fight- JMM was KTFO
     
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  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    id say pac is a greater fighter than may
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He did more with less (talent and skill) but...PBF is clearly the better overall fighter.
     
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  4. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    boxer not fighter
     
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  5. yaca you

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    I think too many on this board are far too bais to score a this fight series objectively.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Fair :thumbsup:
     
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  7. Flo_Raiden

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    I think the Pac-JMM rivalry is an interesting saga with a bit of irony. JMM finishes the war in emphatic fashion, putting Pac to sleep to the point that many didn't think he would ever be the same elite fighter again. But the very next fight JMM loses to Bradley, who would go on to lose to Pac x2. Afterwards Pac bounces back and still continues on after JMM retired.

    You can say that JMM has Pac's number, but Pac has the last laugh.
     
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  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Manny was celebrating a win while he was asleep marquez won and no one can take it from him
     
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  9. Gennady

    Gennady Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why? Because he is the more likeable character?

    Floyd > Pacquiao no doubt

    And I’m not a Floyd fan and I hate defensive fighters

    Cotto, DLH, Margarito were all drained when they fought with Pacquiao
     
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  10. Flo_Raiden

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    Absolutely. That wasn't a knock on JMM at all. Great win and great KO for JMM that everyone will remember. I just find it interesting how everything unraveled after their rivalry ended.
     
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  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    and Alvarez marquez where against may
     
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  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    and may was the one who said he would fight anyone at their best and only at their best
     
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  13. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    This is nonesense.
     
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  14. IsaL

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    The only fight you can argue for Pac imo is the 2nd fight.
     
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  15. Flo_Raiden

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    People like to use the JMM fights (especially the 4th) as a way to downplay Pac but still can't accept the idea that Pac still holds an official win over JMM, much like how Canelo has an official win over GGG despite people being salty about it. Again, they were close fights.

    You can't take away JMM's KO win against Pac since he does have the most convincing win out of the 2. But you also can't take away Pac's close win(s) against JMM. They both deserve credit for having a win over each other.
     
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