Did Kevin Johnson Deserve His Title Shot?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :nod ...and Vargas was his third stoppage victim in a row, and 2nd appearance on ESPN2 FNF as headliner within a year (with a pair of GFL.TV card appearances sandwiched in between)
     
  2. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, he almost knocked out Ray Austin with it. The same Austin who has a longer jab than Kingpin and has had a far more accomplished career.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Austin has less reach than Johnson and was completely shot.
     
  4. N_ N___

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    So shot he was coming wins that were better than anything Johnson had and went on to give Stiverne lots of problems in his next fight.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Stiverne is awful.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Its your reply I'm addressing, you said.

    "The Ranking was based on beating the un-defeated Vargus, who represented the USA at heavyweight in the Olympics ( 2004 ) and standing out in they gym as a top sparring partner for Wlad."

    We know its your post because it has two spelling mistakes in it.:yep

    Since when has representing your country in the amateurs ,and being a good sparring partner been sufficient to merit a title shot?

    Vargas had 17 fights against nobodies going into the Johnson fight he has had a further 5 since and won just 1, that against another nobody whose record is 8-8-0.

    Regarding Jack Johnson, whom you seem to sneak into every thread you post in ,you are as usual dead wrong.
    Al Kaufman fought Johnson for the title in1909.

    Here is a report of their fight.
    "In the event the San Francisco fighter hardly laid a glove on the untrained and patently out of condition Johnson.
    By the eighth round Kaufmann was out on his feet.
    For the last three rounds the champion literally held the big man up, refusing to let him go down.
    At the final bell Johnson half- carried the exhausted Kaufmann back to his corner and gently deposited him on his stool".
    "The San Francisco Call, which had touted Kaufmann as a probable winner had no doubt about the victor.
    It's headlines screamed;"
    "Kaufmann Like A Babe In The Grip Of Johnson"
    "The Black Champion Plays With The Blacksmith"

    NB Here's the important bit, Kaufman did not become Johnson's sparring partner till a year after they fought,[ 1910,] for the Jeffries massacre.
    You are probably getting confused with Jim Jeffries who defended his title against his regular sparring partner Tom Kennedy



    You're full of it. :lol:
    No charge for the history lesson.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He wasn't too special against Wilder, I have to say that.:good
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Mr Nothing
    I probably thought your post had no relevance to the boxing thread I had started and I would be dead right in that estimation.

    You continue sniping from "behind the curtain" ,you haven't the b*lls to address the questions that I put to you regarding the silly list of names you put up on the 40's v 70's thread.
    Just keep making the same silly juvenile comments that have no relevance to the threads .


    ps I'm ENGLISH not BRITISH. There is a difference .
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Maybe they would rather talk about a boxer because this is a boxing Forum?
     
  10. mcvey

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    Judging by Vitali's face at the post fight
    conference Johnson's jab found the mark a few times !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE-i86-9S6Y
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    It was Vitali in the ring not Wlad and Vitali was the aggressor all through the last round, albeit he was having trouble landing.
     
  12. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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  13. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Since the days of Pete Rademacher and Leon Spinks.

    You are correct. There is no charge here. I don't mind giving you history lessons. The real question is can you learn and retain them?
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...or Ray Austin, until the old man tuckered out.

    ...or Demetrice King.

    ...or even Chris Arreola (who actually won a majority of rounds in the rematch before he was stopped), to be honest. Broken hand & nose helped - as did the fact that Arreola is a huge goober and never belonged in a world title fight himself.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not all Brits are English, but aren't English all British? :huh

    If you are setting precedent, then I am a resident of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts - not an American!!

    (no federal taxes for me. :banana)