Did Lewis duck Byrd

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  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yes, I would suspect a boring tactical fight, but all of Byrds fights were that way, but I would have rather seen it than him facing the dangerous Kirk Johnson.
    Byrd was super slick, and we never saw him get caught cleanly other than guys with really fast hands, during the pinnacle of his career.
    Styles make fights, and I believe both Ruiz and Byrd would have exposed Lewis a little. Lets face it Lewis took the iniative against guy like Klitschko, Akinwande, and Mavrovic, fighters who liked to hang out on the outside, and he was a bit vulnerable at points in those fights.

    Same with Ruiz style of jabbing and diving in on the inside. Guys like Mercer and Briggs, showed they could rattle him and force him into a rougher fight. If anyone is quick to counter an oncoming fighter with hooks and uppercuts, it was Holyfield, and he had a terribly tough time with Ruiz.

    I would still pick Lewis over both fighters, but I do think when he finally was presented with some styles that I felt would make interesting matchups against his styles, he flew the coup, and went for the easier money fights, for the very same reason he and so many of the Lewis loyalists, accused Tyson and Bowe of doing in the past.
    Bowe took two easy fights and then right back to a rematch with Holyfield, a fight that was far more grueling than anything lewis was ever involved in, so I dont think it was a chicken **** move on his part.

    Tyson on the other hand was three fights into a 4 year layoff, his ducking of Lewis was understandable, he simply wasnt ready at that point, and really at any point in his comeback because he was never the same fighter.
     
  2. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I know you have been sitting reading this thread with your hands shaking and your teeth grinding. Go aheand and express your feelings, just refrain from calling anyone an idiot, moron, or dumbass...:lol:
     
  4. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He only was going to fight kirk johnson as a warm up after being idle for a year, Lewis vs. Johnson was to be a co-headliner with Tyson vs. tba on the same card to build up to the contracted Tyson rematch but when Tyson pulled out of that card and the contract Lewis sued him ad Don King for ruining the promotion and thats when he brought Vitali in to fill that slot on the undercard to build up for that fight. With ticket sales slow and Lewis as the promoter set to lose money on this promotion miraculously Johnson pulled out with an alleged injury and Vitali was moved into the main event.
     
  5. Steve Fox

    Steve Fox Guest

    It's a mystery isn't it? Why Lewis never fought the two most negative and unmarketable fighters of his generation.
     
  6. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl

    You have nailed the correct. Those pushing the ducked agenda please now put av's of those ATG's Ruiz and Byrd in your profiles!

    Not even Zakman has bought into this one which goes to show how ridiculous this scenario is.
     
  7. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Um, he beat a Klitschko AFTER this.

    Turned his face to pulp if you remember. And at that point, Vitlay was far more dangerous to Lewis than Byrd could ever dream of.

    Lewis isn't a Tua (even though I like Tua), who would just follow Byrd around the ring if down on points. Lewis would have just smashed Byrd.

    In the absolute strictest sense I guess he ducked Byrd. But out of disinterest rather than fear of losing.
     
  8. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :rofl

    Lewis would have had an easy time with Byrd, sort of like the way Wlad did. The biggest advantage that Wlad had & Lewis would have is that Byrd did not possess any punching power at all. Lewis could slug away at will on the harmless birdy -it'd be a sick sight. Almost like a cobra vs a bird. Very unlikely that Byrd is going to overcome Lewis' size & power & damaging offense to get a decision, even if he is a faster, better, slicker boxer in top shape and Lewis is on the decline.

    I would have heavily criticized Lewis for taking this fight. Wlad I can excuse - he sucks and needed too look good, Lewis the Champion (or Vitali for that matter) should only fight real threats to them. Arrogant Lewis did not fear Byrd. He felt he was too good for Byrd and it wouldn't prove anything. I agree with both points.
     
  9. Mob

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    Probably,.......and I don't blame him.

    Beating Byrd at that time meant little for an established giant like Lewis.
    And Byrd has a tendency to make fighters look bad.

    Too little reward.

    But it don't take a genius to figure out that Byrd would lose ten outta ten against a guy like Lennox Lewis.

    **** Byrd and his **** loving wife.
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Care to elaborate on the second half of your closing sentence?
     
  11. He Hate Me

    He Hate Me Active Member Full Member

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    If he did I wouldn't blame him in byrds prime he was very unorthodox and difficult to hit, byrd made people look really bad, not that he was very talented but because of his akward slick style.
     
  12. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    The only reason this thread is still going is because of ******ed haters, and I guess people like me who get annoyed at ******ed haters.

    If you think Lewis ducked Byrd, fine. Go ahead and believe any bull**** you want. I'm not here to teach you about boxing. Go out there and learn for yourself, the facts are out there.

    I'm sure you'll come up with some smart-ass response, but whatever. Either deep down you KNOW Lewis didn't duck Byrd and are just stirring ****, or you really are that dumb. Either way, I don't care any more.


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  13. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More of a 'snub' than a 'duck', is that the general definition we're scrabbling around for here? :D
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Lewis was mean to fight Canadian Kirk Johnson in Canada with Tyson on the undercard to hype a rematch.

    It all went wrong from Lewis. Lewis ended up fighting him in America and then Vitali became a replacement.

    Lewis was huge and knew how to fight like a big man. I can't see Byrd offering that much.
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Bowe, Holy and Tyson are legacy making - Byrd is not.

    Instead of Ruiz he fought the consensus number 1 - Michael Grant. Someone who was more accomplished on paper and more of a threat in the ring.

    Byrd and Ruiz aren't risks, they just worthy fights at that stage. Lewis was put in the typical Byrd, Ruiz situation a million times. By that stage of Lewis career it was about big fights or big money. This meant guys like Grant, Tyson rematch and even RJJ.