Did Madrimov make a mistake or a success by feinting too much?

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  1. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He feinted me to sleep. Yes, he was the champ, but man, where do these guys get their advice? I heard Joel Diaz asking him to throw more combos and be busier, but he never did. I guess he wasn't too interested in winning or becoming a boxing draw. He had a chance to make an impression in front of the celebrities in the crowd, who are casual fans, and the arena appeared to be near capacity. He could have gained a whole new base of fans, yet he chose the safety first approach.
     
  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bingo,,I also thought Madrimov was concentrating on solely defensive to the detriment of his offense. His movement wasn't used to slip and counter Bud. I thought he never tried to use his size, youth and strength to test Bud at the new weight and in a boxing contest he ain't beating Bud.
     
  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well Madrimov is better than what I thought, and Bud is 20 pounds heavier than when he started and is campaigning in his 4th division and will soon be 38 years old .
     
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  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I say it helped. As Porter pointed out, Crawford had to keep resetting. It took Bud several rounds to get some type of rhythm. Even then, Bud wasn't as fliud as usual. Madrimov wasn't as offensive as he seemed to normally be. Being that I haven't seen all of Mardimov's fights, I don't know if he's ever fought like that before. Even in a loss, Madrimov showed he is a tough night. Tszyu vs Madrimov would be a blazing fight. That's the fight I want to see.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never saw someone feint that much ... and not throw ... I think ever.

    Of course, it hurt his chances.

    He'd throw a punch and feint for the next 35 seconds. Throw another punch, and feint for another 35 or 40 seconds. I kept thinking this can't go on all night, can it?

    At one point, around the eighth round, I just turned it off. It was like watching a strobe light.

    Nothing was happening. The fight was two-thirds over, and he's just feinting for 99 percent of the round. It was MADDENING.

    Feinting is designed to get someone to react to one punch (that isn't thrown) so you can get them out of position to land the one you are throwing.

    But feinting feinting feinting feinting feinting feinting feinting feinting for half a minute at a time is NONSENSE.

    Throw a goddamn punch, Christ.

    I can't recall watching Madrimov fight before. But I NEVER want to see that guy again.
     
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  6. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    No, it helped him survive but there’s no way you can win a fight by just feinting. Especially fighting in someone else’s home country. He should’ve pushed the gas more.
     
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  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    It worked for the most part but he feinted himself out of the fight in the 11th. Didn't do a thing.
     
  8. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, it was a solid strategy.
    He just didn’t have enough in the “championship Rounds” to to steal “the story of the fight” from the P4P #1.
     
  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it was an endless full body feint. weirdly mesmerizing. Crawford had a hard time hitting him. But he didn't do enough.

    I think in a rematch, Madrimov could make adjustments and likely pull off a win. It looked like a fight between two equals.
     
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  10. JusABoxinFan

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    Madrimov's unwillingness to engage with an actual offense a great deal the first half of the fight is why I don't understand how anyone can suggest that it was a "close fight", at least on the cards. He definitely showed that he belongs not only on this stage but in the ring with Crawford rounds 7-10, but at no point did he actually control the output and/or tempo of the work in the ring. And when he did attempt to exchange with Crawford, most times he ended up catching the worst end of it simply because he didn't use the distance and reach to his advantage.

    He showed that he is very sturdy and can take a punch. Crawford hurt him 4 different times from round 8-11 and then twice in the 12th, but he still managed to make it to the final bell punching, not running.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There won't be a rematch. Nobody wants to watch that weird garbage again. Madrimov stunk out the joint and lost his title.

    Now he's 10-1. Beltless. Brings no audience and nothing to the table. He's off the Riyadh bus.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens when the Turki guy starts discarding these losing boxers ... given what sycophants the promoters have become.

    The gap between "the haves" and "the have nots" is going to get wider than ever.

    Promoters used to stick with guys like this for a while. Or he could bounce to another promoter. But if all the promoters are beholden to one guy, and he sours on some fighter, that may be "it" for him. (At least until this dies down a bit.)
     
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  12. JusABoxinFan

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    Damn good break down. Leave it to many of the guys with microphones last night, they'd make you believe Madrimov was providing all the work through feints alone while also breaking Crawford down with his wild hooks from distance.

    I feel Madrimov put too much energy in keeping Crawford from doing something that he forgot to put energy into him actually accomplishing something out of fear of being countered.
     
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  13. JusABoxinFan

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    I just witnessed the first post from someone who isn't discreet about the fact they don't know anything about Madrimov or what they saw in the ring.

    Madrimov is far from inexperienced. And Crawford didn't struggle. What we saw was a bigger opponent with athleticism do all he can to keep Crawford from dominating him like he did his other opponents. He still lost handily, which is evident in his face and body language immediately following the final bell.
     
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  14. quest00

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    He may have been inexperienced at the pro level but he had over 300 amateur fights and has proved to be a great talent and it showed in his fight against Crawford. Its no knock on Crawford at all. Remember Lomo was also an amateur great who was inexperienced at the pro level but his talent and skills were put on display in his 3rd pro fight when he dismantled an undefeated Gary Russel and other very good fighters like Nicholas Walters and Rigondeax despite not even having 12 fights
     
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  15. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It helped him not to get KTFO, but his offence is not very creative, I scored 7-5 for Bud. Anyway, Madrimov is at least a very good fighter.
     
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