If you can't see the logic then you're more idiotic than I thought. Patterson beat an old Moore in 5 rounds,Marciano beat an old Moore in 9 rounds. Any questions? But it's very useful.
You would be right, but not in this case, you don´t know perhaps the background story... KTFO is a poster who wrote so much ****, and strangely enough almost about white fighters that it is a bit conspicuous, you know what I mean? In a thread some days ago, I read things like "Even Tye Fields would KO this bum in one round..." I would like to know for example if you ever read such a ridiculous post from me, or if I ever was very biased negative for a fighter...
Ali beat Wepner in 15 rounds, Bugner in 3. You know that Bugner is the better fighter... How logical...
Well obviously, I havn't been a member here for long and you have more experience than me, in terms of who has said what in the past. I do understand your point of view. I have a healthy respect for Marciano and agree he is often underrated and sometimes in an unfair manner.
Yeah, you know, it´s not so that if you would for example Patterson favour in a fantasy matchup that I would respond with a sentence like "Hell no, my boy Marciano would kill him...", but if you come with illogical **** like KTFO ( Patterson KO´d Moore in 5 rounds, Marciano only in 9, Marciano was tailor-made for Floyd, Marciano doesn´t deserve respect, etc.) than it´s normal that my answers are also a bit harsh... everyone has an own opinion, which I normally respect, but in KTFO´s case it´s crystal-clear, only that you know it...
Actually, most ringside reporters said the best, most complete version of Marciano they ever saw was against Archie Moore.
Wie alt bist denn? Wennst nächstes Mal kommst, sagst Bescheid, dann treff ich mich mal mit nem Boxexperten von ESB, geh ma was saufen oder so, hab ich bislang noch nie...
When Floyd got hit with bombs (Liston, Ingo, etc...) it was NEVER "good night". The bottom line is the Rock is an ATG but an early 57 matchup with Floyd would have to look at the very least interesting. And that Rademacher KD that everyone goes on about didn't even hurt Patterson. Pete was a big guy, 5 or 6 years older than Patterson and Floyd rose immediately and kicked his butt kicked plain and simple. The Rock may well have gotten thru to a rather green Floyd at that time and stopped him (or decisioned him) with 2 or 3 knockdowns in the latter rounds but I could never envision this fight being as one-sided as so many are saying. And, by the way, I've never seen ANY 185 pound fighter turn Patterson to jelly. Could Floyd have cut up the aging Rock? IMHO just a more interesting matchup than many seem to be suggesting. My $0.02 P.S. of course you all know me as the resident Patterson nut-hugger...
Good post, but it seems to be that you put also too much on the weight. "No 185 lbs. put him ...", as if the 206 lbs. Liston was that much more...
And 40 years later Ali fought a 75 year old Moore for 6 rounds. ****, that means Patterson would have dominated Ali, "The Greatest" was a joke. Oh wait. Anybody seen where my pills are?