Did Marcanio duck Patterson?

He still chase after Ingo in the rematch and the 3rd fight. And EVEN than Ingo put him down. I dont think Patterson learn much from thsos 3 bouts. And when he fought Liston, he charge head first. No boxing no nothing. Just trying to out slug Liston. And the rematch?? Patterson charge head first AGAIN. In the 1950's, Patterson would have done the same to Marciano. Cus was teaching Patterson to be like Tyson. During the 60's Patterson had a change in styles.

 

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Right. Ali said Floyd had the best skills of any boxer he faced, but the smartest performance of his career may have come against Chuvalo. He also originally won the title in part because of the most dreadful performance of Moore's career. He couldn't have survived fighting Rocky like that.

 

I believe you're talking bollocks my friend. Patterson had very good balance and footwork. The knockdowns weren't down to being off balance they were down to Patterson's biggest and well documanted weakness his chin. Plain and simple.

 

No he didn't. If Charles had a solid chin then so did Patterson had just as good a chin as Ezz, if not better. If Marciano had a hard time putting away Charles, he could definetely have a hard time putting away Patterson as well.:good

 

Charles was only ko ONE time before he face Marciano. Charles was not a easy guy to put away.

 

Patterson was actually down at least 21 times that I know of:

once against a journeyman in an early fight
once against Pete Rademacher
once against Roy Harris
nine times against Johansson
four times against Liston
once against Ali
three times against Quarry
once against Bonavena

 

Yes, but how many truley good heavyweights did he fight, and in the primes of their career's? A lot of people rip Patterson a new ******* for getting KO'd in one by Liston, but did Charles really ever fight a puncher of liston's calibur, except for Marciano who dusted him?

 

Doesn't mean he had a good chin. It just means he had heart.

 

Getting knocked down has everything to do with your chin. Most of the time falling to the canvass is an involuntary reflex, the result of getting clocked good on the chin. While a fighter can be hurt and get stopped on his feet.

 

Exactly.

 

Charles had a good chin in every division he fought in including Heavy, Jimmy Ellis was dropped as a middleweight but stood up in the heavy division until he met Joe Frazier and took a lot of shots to the head and body, Patterson had a lot of skills but had trouble with a shot to the head, He was blasted by Ingo,Sonny, and used his experience and skills with the amatuerish heavys of the 70's but was still dropped a lot

 

Why would anyone duck Patterson? The way I hear it, Patterson was known for all the ducking

 

Exactly Science. That's the reason I sometimes knock Leonard