Did Marciano avoid Nino Valdes?

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Rocky KO1 Godzilla
     
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    Lonsdale81 Member Full Member

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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No actually we don' t know that Liston used to cheat with liniment and Willams never complained of it.Valdes beat 9 Ring ranked contenders.and was ring number 1 for 14 months plenty of time for Marciano to have faced him how many ranked contenders did Cockell beat ,or Marciano for that matter? Louis was 6 '1 1/2",and was washed up on his comeback he had been kept away from punchers,and his stoppage percentage had plummeted because he was relying on what was left of his left jab.
    Louis said his last good fight ,when he felt anything like his old self ,was in1946 against Mauriello,he fought Marciano in1951 over 5 years later.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ring number 1 is meaningless. He was actual #1 for eight months.

    Rocky had a right to fight Cockell. A champ obviously does not fight his number 1 every time. This is all rubbish. The Cockell fight was fine.
     
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    idk what youre trying to say here, all im saying is that the cockell fight was set up before the Charles fight. Obviously Cockell isnt as good as Valdes, but it wasnt an attempt to duck Valdes. Valdes would not even be a top 3 win of Marciano's career.
     
  6. mcvey

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    I'm trying to say Valdes deserved a title shot.
    I don't believe Marciano would duck anybody,I do believe Al Weill his manager would.Valdes would be a better win than
    Layne, Mathews,Savold,Lastarza,or Cockell imo.
     
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