did margo used plaster of paris againts cotto??

In addition, this fight ruined Cotto - he was damaged goods afterwards.

Margo should have received a life ban. I think it is disgrace that he's got a shot now at Pacquiao :verysad

 

So who the general public and the bookies thought would win is your whole argument, Scar? Sergio Diaz told me in an email (that I might be able to find) that they "knew" Cotto was a "soft target" before that fight took place.

They think in those terms.

Shane Mosley is one of the most durable fighters to ever compete. Ask me again why Margarito would load his gloves against a guy who some consider unknockoutable and not feel the need or knew he couldn't get away with trying in Nevada against a guy who some believe was hurt by Paulie Malignaggi.

 

He wasn't hurt by Paulie feather, when??? Besides Chop Chop, who stunned Mayweather aswell, and Torres who has always been heavy handed, WHO HURT COTTO BEFORE MARGO??? Judah?? He landed a few flush uppercutts but never dazed Cotto.

 

Cotto had a decent chin before Cheato broke him down. He still can take a beating even now.

 

Damn, eagle eyes. What are you seeing? Cotto naked when he's fighting? Are you checking his package the whole time?

 

You must be a recent boxing fan.

Max Kellerman who was an analyst for HBO that night, very early in the fight noted that though Cotto was winning the rounds, he felt that Margarito was landing the harder shots and was laying the groundwork to the body for something that may help him later.

Anyone thats seen fights, had to admire and be concerned that with Margarito tearing into Cotto's body, it was going to wear on him.

This is'nt how you described it, "all of a sudden."

Margarito followed a plan and laid the groundwork for his success from round 1, and it payed off.

 

yes because cotto landed more in the earlier rounds yet its as if cotto was hurt more..then marg is too confident to punch in the cotto fight yet hes hesitant to throw punches in the mosley fight..he knows he cant hurt mosley anymore in that fight

 

Exactly this. People forget how much Margo punished him in the early rounds, it started in round 2. I particularly remember a right uppercut to the midsection that moved Cotto to the ropes. I think it was in round 2.

Margarito's win had a lot more to do with his seeral times PROVEN superior conditioning, willpower, aggressiveness and chin. Put those abilities against a suspect chin (As proved against Judah, Corley and Torres), questionable stamina (Mosley, Malignaggi, Clottey, Pac, N'Dou), amd flat out bad defense (too many to mentuion). What happens? Well, exactly what did happen! Even though I thought Cotto would win a hard-fought battle the result didn't surprise me at the time - at all.

And I must add; It didn't surprise almost anybody back then either. Margo's punching power was by no means the main point of speculation/discussion. Instead, it was his chin, will and stamina that had posters in awe. Cotto lost the mental battle big time when he realized he couldn't hurt AM. This speaks for his cleanness.

It wasn't strange that he succumbed to the pressure - as Kellerman rightly pointed out, the pace was very high for a welterweight fight. Cotto's surrendering had more to to with physical and mental exhaustion than it had to do with bricks. He was hurt earlier in the fight but nothing remarkable the made me feel "bricks!". Yes, his face was bloodied but when looking at his face the day after the fight he had remarkably few bruises. And Cotto was prone to cuts even before Margarito. Contrary to what one poster said earlier on this thread, it was Margarito's face that looked like **** the next day.

It was simply a case of a fatigued Cotto who'd tried his best to hurt AM but realized he stood no chance of winning the fight anymore. Margarito made Cotto fight every second. This speaks for his cleanness.

Then we have the facts that Philla and San Rafael brought up. Well, San Rafel's was an opinion but a legit one I feel. Different kinds of logic can be used. Margarito was weight-drained against Mosley and that's not a post hoc-explanation,see the reports bafore the fight. The only explanation is that he did it his whole career. He didn't show more power vs Cotto than he did before. I even thought his punches looked meatier against A Diaz and Six Heads. Let me add that he couldn't possibly have got away with it all the fights before Cotto. Cintron hade trouble with Martinez' and Felicianos pressure so the result at the time was no surprise. As for his "nobody punches that hard"... Well, he said that about Martinez' legit knouckout punch too. Not the bastion of credibility and honesty, our dear Kermit.

I can assure you; if you're a fighter then you can clearly feel the difference between gloves and power. It's easy to distinguish if somebody punches you with a 8oz or a 10oz glove. I would, and I'm not a professional fighter. And you tell me not only Cotto, but about TEN fighters before him, with their experienced trainers, teams and promoters wouldn't suspect anything?? When it's not even about gloce size - but bricks?? I've heard none complains in the past whatsoever, not even from Cotto himself when he got the opportunity. And as I said before, Cotto's face was surprisingly unmarked the next day. Go watch the pictures of him and AM yourselves.

If you get hit with a brick you feel it - immediately. The natural reaction is to tell somebody. If not in the post-fight interview because of pride then afterwards, inofficially, to your trainer "hey, that guys power was strange... What do you think??" Such rumours spread easily and lead to investigation and stricter control but yet nobody was found before.

We can never know for sure but I'm very cofident he did NOT use any inserts of some sort. He must be deemed innocent 'til proven otherwise. And to Scar and all others who think he cheated: I understand your position and its not unreasonable logic. I would, however, refrain from calling persons who don't agree with your opinion "idiots".

 

& his corner

 

his gloves were checked not his hands(the gauze) cotto looked the same in the pac fight and every fight after that cause his facial tissue already had a lot of wear in that fight because of the plaster

 

No he didn't.

Nevada officials as well as members from Cotto's camp WITNESSED Tony getting his hands wrapped.:deal

 

Nevada officials know.:deal

 

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His hands were checked too.

 

Corley stunned Floyd.

He had Cotto ready to go...big difference.:deal

 

everyone knows that Margo like many other fighters is a late starter.