did margo used plaster of paris againts cotto??

It's certainly no giant leap of faith to suggest that if he cheated with an aged Shane past his prime that he would have against a prime Cotto. It's almost naive to think he didn't. Remember the Lujan fight? How do you rip a mans ear half off with a punch. The far left rip and blood spot on the far left knuckle post Cotto would seem to coincide with the insert taken pre Shane and you have to ask yourself how the blood stain got their and who's blood is it?

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If Margo hit Cotto, its possible that his knuckles bled, and therefore there was a blood stain on the knuckle pads.

How do you think the blood stain got on the insert in the pad that was caught in the mosley fight?

If Margo knowingly had hidden plaster in his knucklepads during the Cotto fight, he would not be waiving those hands around so candidly

 

Its pretty obvious.

 

The pad on the left is the pad taken from the Mosely fight. Where's the stain from?

As far as waiving his hands around, people do all kinds of things at the spur of the moment and he had just won the biggest fight of his career.

 

no one really knows. your poll is irrelevant.

 

There is certain things you guys don't know. Just let me say this. Margarito is innocent, he will beat pacquiao when they fight.

Margarito knew about the wraps but was not in agreement, capetillo was also in disagreement. Someone leaked out that mosely was on some amazing peds and those who have interest in Margos career took it upon themselves to try and even out the playing field. Margo wanted no part but he didn't refuse to fight, but these people are get what they want.

Margo is getting this big pay day because he is owed big time or he can just open his mouth.

I'm far far away from the source where I got this info and is the reason I'm posting. Plus I don't think they read or speak english

 

Why's that? It's not like they would have fallen out or even been exposed. The pads prior to the Mosley fight were concealed inside of the gauze. Nazim Richardson said he wasn't even aware of anything being inside of Tony's wraps, he just had an issue with the hardness of the wraps and the way they were actually wrapping his hands. It wasn't until Margarito was ordered to remove his hand wraps that the pads were discovered.

 

thats not blood thats dye from a boxing glove, if the glove was black the mark would be black also, :deal

 

This is compelling evidence, i can see that. Once again, though, if you delve a little deeper you get to see a wider picture.

If the insert that was nearly used against Mosley was used against Cotto, which is what is implied here, then was it hard at that point?

Inspectors suggested the inserts were stiffer perhaps through previous use, which again lines up with what you are saying, but that doesnt mean they were hard for Cotto. It's quite possible that these "old inserts" were not "old" in the Cotto fight.

Why would Capetillo use the same ones used against Cotto, rather than just make fresh ones without obvious stains, in order to avoid suspicion? It doesn't make a lot of sense. Also, where would Capetillo keep these illegal inserts for 6 months? Locked up in a cupboard in the gym marked "special Margarito inserts"? I find it hard to believe.

Also, given that Nevada supply the gauze for their fights, how do you think Capetillo managed to get these inserts into the gauze without an official or member of Cotto's team noticing?

As for Lujan's ear, go to 1:55 of the link, watch the right hook, and that may help to show why the ear ended up as horrifically injured as it did.

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As for Margarito having the inserts for Mosley but not for Cotto, which some don't understand, how about this...

Margarito win's his biggest fight yet, he is now a star. He parties and celebrates this accomplishment a little too much. As a naturally large welter who has fought at light middle before anyway, this makes shedding the weight ultra hard for Margarito, who is drained and not at full capacity come fight night. Perhaps then Capetillo who has always stated his ambition to protect Margarito, had a rush of blood to the head and used old, hard inserts in new gauze, in order to make sure his protege didn't lose his power.
It's not so far fetched is it?

Anyway, for now, i remain unsure, but everything is not as black and white as most people make out.

 

Do you have proof he used loaded gloves against Cotto? If so, please post it.

Otherwise we will all be forced to use your logic and believe that Mosley has used PEDs throughout his whole career.

 

Do you have any proof Margarito used loaded gloves against Cotto? Do you? Were you there? And so on...

****ing dopey dung beetle, collecting **** and rolling it uphill

 

I was not their to check his raps, were you.

 

I'll be honest, I've read that twice now and have no clue as to what the **** you are on about. Were you drunk when you posted this? Or were your eyes just awash with tears??

 

HBO which has gone out of their way to label Margarito a cheater, once presented a picture of Margarito's wrap on a telecast of theirs......
It was from the Cotto fight. Its exactly the left hand shown above with the red mark near his pinky knuckle.

HBO explained that they could have been exactly the wraps he tried to use in the Mosley fight which also had a blood stain on them........
......but something that the commentators at HBO did'nt mention that I noticed is that there were a couple of red marks on Margarito's wraps near and above his wrist area.....

Certainly Margarito was'nt going to plant plaster on his wrist.

That blood on Margarito's wraps in the Cotto fight could very well have seeped inside of Margarito's gloves from Cotto's bleeding.

The blood may have seeped onto the wrist area of the glove which would explain the blood stains on his gauze at his wrist.
......and the blood stain on Margarito's knuckle could have gotten there when he was taking his glove off and that part of the knuckle came in contact with the blood when Margarito was taking his glove off.

I'm sure there are other ways for that blood stain to land on Margarito's wraps that has nothing to do with plaster.

.......the key thing though is that there was blood on Margarito's wrist area and not just the knuckles.

 

We are allowed to have our suspicions, but until he is proven guilty then it is a no.

It's not totally unreasonable to think Margarito only cheated for the Mosley fight, consider:

Margarito beating Cotto was by far his greatest achievement professionally as a boxer. This fight single handidly launched his popularity to new heights. The pressure of being a champion expected to win is greater than being an underdog challenger.... so is it totally unreasonable to believe the pressure may have influenced him and his team to cheat? Even as the favourite, the expectations are greater.

The pressures professional sportsmen and women face are incredible, and we see it time and time again where talented sports people resort to cheating knowing the risks it entails.

Margarito has always been an accumulative puncher and again, not totally unreasonable to believe his fists alone casued the damage. He isn't a 1 punch puncher, but he still hits very hard. Not to mention Pacquiao caused similar damage to Cotto, yet there is no doubting Pacquiao's hand wraps.

You might think I'm clutching at straws, but you would be biased if you couldn't consider scenarios from both sides