did margorito leave it all...

Possible

he took a beating himself in that fight.

 

I think he did...if you recall he said he was dedicating the fight to his fallen brother and that he would leave everything in the ring.

I believe he did just that....the sad part about the Mosley fight is that he
was the last to know he was knocked out.....
There is a disengagement in his brain and he will never be the same.

 

Doesn't matter, Mosley would beat the **** out of him even 2 years ago.

 

nope he left it all on the floor when the substance fell from his wraps

 

nah....He took beatings before with other fighters....Cotto definitly gave him a lot but he was fine afterwards...

 

He'll never be as high as he was before that loss

 

Agreed.

I don't think he gave his all in there against Mosley. He couldn't believe what was happening to him. Smiling and nodding through every clean shot.

 

Exactly.

 

Not because he's lost ability, but rather that his secret is out.

 

Hello all, this is my first post although I have been following this forum for a while.

Since the Mosley victory, I have been pondering this very thing. Was the Margo that beat the bejesus out of Cotto, and pretty much everyone before him, the same fighter who got his youknowwhat handed to him by Mosley?

Points to consider:

Loaded gloves - until there is any official statement, this is pure speculation, although it does cast a very nasty cloud over Margo.

Weight - 160 lbs or 170lbs? Many are saying that Margo was weight drained, maybe he wasn't, maybe he was concerned about Mosley's speed so he opted to fight lighter than usual? Its worth considering that Margo's camp made a grave tactical error in that they assumed that Mosley was going to rely on his speed, and in doing so they failed to realise that Mosley's plan was to come in and overpower Margo. If Margo had come in at 170, would he have been manhandled by Shane so easily? I think that this was one of the keys to victory.

Tactics - Cotto played right in to Margo's hands, whilst Shane executed the perfect plan. How much of the tactics contributed to Margo's downfall? Many will point to the consistent body work by Shane early on, and say that this was the key to victory. Others will state that by smothering Margo's work, Mosley was able to sustain his own attack for longer. Both fair points.

My own feeling are as follows. Mosley's tactics had more to do with damage limitation rather than specific offence. Any elite fighter need not concern themselve with what offense to mount against Margo, he is always there to be hit. Everyone knows that at a certain range, Mosley could outbox Margo all night long. The key was to only fight at a range that suited Shane, anything else, and he tied Margo up. One only needs to look at B-Hop to see what happens when you take away your opponents strengths, he's become a legend by taking away his opponents strengths. With a one dimensional fighter like Margo, you have an easy plan to work to. Joshua Clottey laid out that blueprint for us.

What about the Cotto factor though? I don't think that many would say that Shane hits harder than Cotto, yes he hits hard, but looking back over recent years, who has he done any real damage to? Cotto has been a wrecking machine with much vaunted power. Cotto was hitting Margo with about 50% of his power shots in every round up until the seventh. I believe that was Cotto in the ring with Margo instaed of Shane on Saturday, I think he would have ruined Margo in an even more devastating fashion. The punch resistance that Margo displayed against Cotto simply wasn't there against Shane. Lets not forget that at no point in the Cotto - Mosley match did Mosley cause Cotto any serious problems with his power, and Cotto is 'supposedly' chinny. If he coulnd't hurt a 'chinny' fighter in Cotto, how did he ko the guy who is reckoned to have the best beard in the game.

I feel that Margo did leave it all in the ring with Cotto. Everyone knows that Margo is easily outboxed, but this is a guy who many believed was indestrutable. You don't go from walking through everything that Miguel Cotto can throw at you, and even Kermit Cintron, to being completely ruined by an aging, but still dangerous Shane Mosley. I think that the damage caused by Cotto will go on to haunt Margo for the rest of his career.

And despite all of the above, congrats to Mosley on a timeless performance.

 

He left his plaster wraps in the ring with Cotto

 

Yeah..then this happened

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"Have a seat"

 

How did you arrive at this conclusion? :roll:

 

When he said "..he gave it his all" - by "it" he meant his face.