did Marquez fight a weight drained Pacquiao in the rematch?

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  1. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    pac was barely making 130 at the second barrera fight. pac also had trouble making the 135 limit.
     
  2. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that was the whole fight eh..good description lol...i rememmber there was a vit more tp that fight
     
  3. saul_ir34

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    Didn't JMM come in at 141? That's not that much of a difference. JMM is just a hell of a fighter. Most underrated fighter of the past 10 years
     
  4. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    then he shouldn't fight at 130 or 135...u think it is a piece of cake for jmm to make 130
     
  5. enzo

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    Yes! i even saw it in the news that he was still busting his ass off! jogging 2 days before the fight becuase he is still 5 pounds over weight.

    If not for the belt he would have fought Diaz at 135 instead...
     
  6. batang kanto

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    It was easier for marquez and barrera to make 130 during their respective fights than pacquaio. one indication he was draining to make weight is that pac blew up to about 142-46 during fight night. that was like Miguel Cotto when he was still killing himself to make 135 and 140.
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    my stand on this base on the pictures that i posted is yes. just look at the picture that i posted and see that pac's cheekbones and his color which is pale which are signs of a weight-drained person. but it was hard fight for pacquiao mostly because of style more than weight.
     
  8. batang kanto

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    Even Pac's conditioning coach said there was a vast decrease in terms of Punching power from pac when he suddenly had to drain days before the barrera and marquez fight.
     
  9. batang kanto

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    I agree. its more of the style than the weight. But it must be reiterated that pac himself was weight drained to shut up all those who were saying pac was fighting an old marquez. in fact, pac is the more battered fighter in terms of experience and he was the one who had to lose more weight
     
  10. enzo

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    I've seen a pic of pac's face during training he looked like skeletor!

    anybody has a pic of this? i think bk has one. :think
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    i don't even get those who are saying that jmm is an old fighter. in terms of ring age, they are almost equal. jmm started at almost 20 years of age as a pro while pac started 16. almost same ring age and factor in the wars and styles that both fighters encountered before and you will say that jmm should be the fresher fighter of the two.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    pac's face during the barrera and marquez rematches were terrible. that is why roach really wants pac to go up to 135 as soon as possible then. it's only because of the demand of the boxing community that pac decided to get jmm's belt at 130 for his legacy.
     
  13. Scar

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    We don't need to make excuses about a guy Pacquiao already beat.
     
  14. enzo

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    here's some of the photos...

    look at his face... he looks like skeletor. :nut

    barrera II

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    Marquez II

    dry as ****!

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  15. Sweet Pea

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    :lol:There is no evidence whatsoever to support this, Pacquiao was at the peak of his powers in this matchup, he was just made to look less than stellar against the best fighter he's faced. I love how Pac fans will make any excuse possible, no matter how arbitrary, for Pacquiao but refuse to accept any from the point of view of his opponent or any fighter he's being compared to.